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  • From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Why is permaculture more about selling books, DVDs and training courses?
  • Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:49:47 -0400

Some other decentralized human systems are science, Islam and the early Irish church. They work or worked. Science and to a degree permaculture have the advantage of reality-testing. They're messy, but that's life.

I ran across a somewhat relevant quote from an American political scientist:

"Dememocracy is like a raft that never sinks, but then your feet are always in the water."

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



Robert Waldrop wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Travis" <djtravis@hotmail.com>
Perhaps if permaculture had started out as being more >centralized and democratic (as opposed to decentralized and >autocratic a la Mollison), it would have developed the sort of >infrastructure needed to move beyond demo sites and a handful >of NGO projects, but who can say?

The present way that permaculture is "organized" mimics natural systems. Nature is not centralized, nor does it work via a democratic process. Centralization promotes bureaucracy and renders the organization vulnerable to leadership mistakes. Permaculture is not an organization, but it certainly is an organism, or rather, a collection of organisms.

[snip]




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