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  • From: Thilo Pfennig <vinci@alternativ.net>
  • To: "permaculture" <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Bill Mollison copyright statement
  • Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:30:13 +0200 (MEST)



Russ Grayson + Fiona Campbell writes:

(Skye:)
> > Can we only teach Pc to those with sufficient
> > education, access to information (and maybe internet) and a wide
> > experience of concepts???

I think everybody can have access to the internet. There is no
problem in printing everything out. Internet is just a possibility for
distributing information more easily. But it does not stand at the
end or should not gatekeep information.



> What we say in our courses is that zone one may be some kilometres from
> zone zero, the
> home, if it is an apartment or if, as is often the case, the person is
> renting and is
> not permitted to build a garden in their rented premises. In these
> circumstances, zone
> one becomes the nearest community garden. Now, I'm aware that some folk
> will say that
> there is an energy cost in travelling to a community garden to obtain
> fresh food, but
> that's rather small compared to the energy, road congestion and pollution
> cost of
> railing or trucking the food in from the country.

Do you think it makes sense to call it "zone 1" if it is so far away. I
know this situation. My parents had such a garden. It works, but I
would not call those zones "zone 1"? ArenĀ“t cities need a
classification of their own (well certainly it is often possible to
have a zone 1 near, but many cities like to see their public parks
occupied by private gardeners who grow their vegetables there.)



> There is a valid argument, I believe, for developing an adapted
> permaculture design
> course for urban areas. The fact in Australia, as elsewhere, is that more
> and more
> people are living in cities and, if the cities canot be made sustainable,
> then it is
> questionable that the rest of the country can be made sustainable.

Where to begin? Wastewater?







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