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  • From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@bellsouth.net>
  • To: Hector Black <hblack1925@fastmail.fm>, nafex mailing list at ibiblio <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [nafex] [nafex ibiblio list] Eleagnus umbellata, Autumn Olive - interested in sources for seedlings of this plant
  • Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:48:53 -0500

On 1/17/2012 12:47 PM, Hector Black wrote:
could you remind me in sept? and send address. hector
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr."<lflj@bellsouth.net>

Eleagnus umbellata, Autumn Olive

I am interested in sources for seedlings of this plant.
I would be interested in purchasing a few seedlings if anyone in this
list can ship them to me. I am in the Piedmont region of North Carolina.

Thanks Hector, I appreciate the offer. I will be sure to contact you in September 2012 with an order.

Have you see the information about Eleagnus in Plants For A Future?
It lists much information on its medicinal uses.

http://www.pfaf.org/user/default.aspx
they spell eleagnus "elaeagnus"
Elaeagnus umbellata Autumn Olive Elaeagnaceae E. crispa.
Edibility rating 4 Medicinal rating 2

More information from its page:

Common Name Autumn Olive
Family Elaeagnaceae
Synonyms E. crispa.
Known Hazards E. umbellata has the potential of becoming one of the most troublesome adventive shrubs in the central and eastern United States.
Habitats Thickets and thin woods in the lowland and hills[58].
Range E. Asia - China, Japan, Himalayas.
Edibility Rating 4
Medicinal Rating 2
Care
Fully Hardy Well drained soil Moist Soil Full sun

Summary

Physical Characteristics
icon of manicon of shrub
Elaeagnus umbellata is a deciduous Shrub growing to 4.5 m (14ft) by 4 m (13ft) at a medium rate.
It is hardy to zone 3 and is not frost tender. It is in flower from May to June, and the seeds ripen from Sep to November. The flowers are hermaphrodite (have both male and female organs) and are pollinated by Bees.It can fix Nitrogen.
It is noted for attracting wildlife.


The plant prefers light (sandy), medium (loamy) and heavy (clay) soils, requires well-drained soil and can grow in nutritionally poor soil.The plant prefers acid, neutral and basic (alkaline) soils..It cannot grow in the shade.It requires dry or moist soil and can tolerate drought.The plant can tolerate maritime exposure.

Elaeagnus umbellata Autumn Olive


Elaeagnus umbellata Autumn Olive
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Habitats
Woodland Garden Sunny Edge; Dappled Shade; Hedge;
Edible Uses
Edible Parts: Fruit; Seed.

Fruit - raw or cooked[2, 46, 105]. Juicy and pleasantly acid, they are tasty raw and can also be made into jams, preserves etc[160, 183, 194]. The fruit must be fully ripe before it can be enjoyed raw, if even slightly under-ripe it will be quite astringent[K]. The fruit contains about 8.3% sugars, 4.5% protein, 1% ash[194]. The vitamin C content is about 12mg per 100g[194]. Mature bushes in the wild yield about 650g of fruit over 2 - 3 pickings[194]. The harvested fruit stores for about 15 days at room temperature[194]. The fruit is about 8mm in diameter[200] and contains a single large seed[K]. Seed - raw or cooked[194]. It can be eaten with the fruit though the seed case is rather fibrous[160].
Medicinal Uses


Plants For A Future can not take any responsibility for any adverse effects from the use of plants. Always seek advice from a professional before using a plant medicinally.

Astringent; Cancer; Cardiac; Pectoral; Stimulant.

The flowers are astringent, cardiac and stimulant[240]. The seeds are used as a stimulant in the treatment of coughs[240]. The expressed oil from the seeds is used in the treatment of pulmonary affections[240]. The fruit of many members of this genus is a very rich source of vitamins and minerals, especially in vitamins A, C and E, flavanoids and other bio-active compounds. It is also a fairly good source of essential fatty acids, which is fairly unusual for a fruit. It is being investigated as a food that is capable of reducing the incidence of cancer and also as a means of halting or reversing the growth of cancers[214].
Other Uses
Fuel; Hedge; Hedge.

Very tolerant of maritime exposure, it makes a good informal hedge, succeeding even in very exposed positions[75]. The plants make a reasonable wind-protecting screen, they are about as wide as they are tall. They make a good companion hedge, enriching the soil and fertilizing neighbouring plants[K]. The wood is a good fuel[146].
Cultivation details
Succeeds in most soils that are well-drained[11, 200], though it dislikes shallow chalk soils[98]. It prefers a soil that is only moderately fertile, succeeding in very poor soils and in dry soils[11, 200]. Prefers a light sandy loam and a sunny position[11]. Established plants are very drought resistant[1]. A very hardy plant, tolerating temperatures down to at least -40°c[200]. This species is somewhat similar to E. multiflora, but it flowers a few weeks later[182]. Sometimes cultivated for its edible fruit, there are some named varieties[183]. 'Cardinal' and 'Red Wing' are very good fruiting forms (developed for ornament and not for fruit quality)[182]. 'Jazbo' has been bred for its edible fruits which are said to be ripe when 'they drop into your hand'[214]. This makes them valuable in breeding programmes to develop easily harvested fruits[214]. Flowers are rich in nectar and very aromatic, they are much visited by bees. Polymorphic[11, 275]. This species is notably resistant to honey fungus[88, 200]. Plants can fruit in 6 years from seed[160]. This species has a symbiotic relationship with certain soil bacteria, these bacteria form nodules on the roots and fix atmospheric nitrogen. Some of this nitrogen is utilized by the growing plant but some can also be used by other plants growing nearby[160, 200]. An excellent companion plant, when grown in orchards it can increase yields from the fruit trees by up to 10%.

Propagation
Seed - best sown as soon as it is ripe in a cold frame[78]. It should germinate in late winter or early spring, though it may take 18 months[K]. Stored seed can be very slow to germinate, often taking more than 18 months. A warm stratification for 4 weeks followed by 12 weeks cold stratification can help[98]. The seed usually (eventually) germinates quite well[78]. Prick out the seedlings into individual pot as soon as they are large enough to handle and plant out when they are at least 15cm tall. Cuttings of half-ripe wood, 7 - 10cm with a heel, July/August in a frame. Good percentage[78]. Cuttings of mature wood of the current year's growth, 10 - 12cm with a heel, November in a frame. Leave for 12 months. Fair to good percentage[78]. Layering in September/October. Takes 12 months[78].
Expert comment


Author
Thunb.

Botanical References
1158200

Links / References

[K] Ken Fern Notes from observations, tasting etc at Plants For A Future and on field trips.

[1]F. Chittendon. RHS Dictionary of Plants plus Supplement. 1956
Comprehensive listing of species and how to grow them. Somewhat outdated, it has been replaces in 1992 by a new dictionary (see [200]).
[2]Hedrick. U. P. Sturtevant's Edible Plants of the World.
Lots of entries, quite a lot of information in most entries and references.
[11]Bean. W. Trees and Shrubs Hardy in Great Britain. Vol 1 - 4 and Supplement.
A classic with a wealth of information on the plants, but poor on pictures.
[46]Uphof. J. C. Th. Dictionary of Economic Plants.
An excellent and very comprehensive guide but it only gives very short descriptions of the uses without any details of how to utilize the plants. Not for the casual reader.
[58]Ohwi. G. Flora of Japan. (English translation)
The standard work. Brilliant, but not for the casual reader.
[75]Rosewarne experimental horticultural station. Shelter Trees and Hedges.
A small booklet packed with information on trees and shrubs for hedging and shelterbelts in exposed maritime areas.
[78]Sheat. W. G. Propagation of Trees, Shrubs and Conifers.
A bit dated but a good book on propagation techniques with specific details for a wide range of plants.
[88]RHS. The Garden. Volume 112.
Snippets of information from the magazine of the RHS. In particular, there are articles on plants that are resistant to honey fungus, oriental vegetables, Cimicifuga spp, Passiflora species and Cucurbits.
[98]Gordon. A. G. and Rowe. D. C. f. Seed Manual for Ornamental Trees and Shrubs.
Very comprehensive guide to growing trees and shrubs from seed. Not for the casual reader.
[105]Tanaka. T. Tanaka's Cyclopaedia of Edible Plants of the World.
The most comprehensive guide to edible plants I've come across. Only the briefest entry for each species, though, and some of the entries are more than a little dubious. Not for the casual reader.
[146]Gamble. J. S. A Manual of Indian Timbers.
Written last century, but still a classic, giving a lot of information on the uses and habitats of Indian trees. Not for the casual reader.
[160]Natural Food Institute, Wonder Crops. 1987.
Fascinating reading, this is an annual publication. Some reports do seem somewhat exaggerated though.
[182]Thomas. G. S. Ornamental Shrubs, Climbers and Bamboos.
Contains a wide range of plants with a brief description, mainly of their ornamental value but also usually of cultivation details and varieties.
[183]Facciola. S. Cornucopia - A Source Book of Edible Plants.
Excellent. Contains a very wide range of conventional and unconventional food plants (including tropical) and where they can be obtained (mainly N. American nurseries but also research institutes and a lot of other nurseries from around the world.
[194]Parmar. C. and Kaushal. M.K. Wild Fruits of the Sub-Himalayan Region.
Contains lots of information on about 25 species of fruit-bearing plants of the Himalayas, not all of them suitable for cool temperate zones.
[200]Huxley. A. The New RHS Dictionary of Gardening. 1992.
Excellent and very comprehensive, though it contains a number of silly mistakes. Readable yet also very detailed.
[214]Matthews. V. The New Plantsman. Volume 1, 1994.
A quarterly magazine, it has articles on Himalayacalamus hookerianus, hardy Euphorbias and an excellent article on Hippophae spp.
[240]Chopra. R. N., Nayar. S. L. and Chopra. I. C. Glossary of Indian Medicinal Plants (Including the Supplement).
Very terse details of medicinal uses of plants with a wide range of references and details of research into the plants chemistry. Not for the casual reader.
[275] Flora of Japan
An on-line version of the flora - an excellent resource.

Readers comment

Elizabeth H.
Jim Watkins Sun Aug 20 2006
Sorry, you have it backwards. Many people do this. If the fruit is red its Autumn Olive. Russian Olive is Elaeagnus Angustifolia. It has yellow flowers and yellow fruit.
Elizabeth H.
Jonathan Kohrman Sun Apr 22 2007
WE have several elaeagnus umbelata grown from small bareroot plants. After only three years they are getting very large, great handsome plants. Last summer they were all covered in berries. Once they turned deep red they were delicious, like sweet sour cherries or even pomegranate seeds. Our children (and we) loved them and would pop great big handfuls in our mouths. They hung on the bushes and stayed fresh for well over a month. Great fun! We are in zone 5 Western Massachusetts.
Elizabeth H.
Kevin Feinstein Mon Sep 3 2007
This plant is amazing! It's considered to be invasive in many parts of the United States, although I believe this label arises out of misunderstanding. It's a pioneer plant, and offers such an amazing food source, containing Omega 3 fatty acids! If it were a tropical species, I believe it would be marketed as a gourmet health food, or superfood. Instead, the economies of the more "developed" world make their income from this Elaeagnus by spraying poisons to eliminate it. I also find it interesting that it's considered invasive at all because I can't get any of the seeds to germinate.

feralkevin video and commentary from the emerging sustainable culture
Elizabeth H.
Stewart Forrester Sat Sep 8 2007

USDA Agricultural Research Site Researchers have analyzed these berries and found very high lycopene content-averaging between 15 and 54 mg per 100 g of the fruit.
Elizabeth H.
Mark Tue Sep 18 2007
I have 4 of these trees/bushs(?) and I the deer and the birds find them delicious. I live in Rhode Island and am now trying to make Mead out of the berries. I am also considering introduceing them to an edge along a new construction that has cut off the deer from my property :( I have no problems with them spreading like weeds and they don't have any thorns or tendrils. So I am unclear on what exact species I have. Here they are refered to as Deer Berries. Which is one reason it has taken me a year to find out what they actually are. This is a great picture of what my plants look like. http://www.hort.uconn.edu/Plants/e/elaumb/elaumb07.jpg http://www.missouriplants.com/Whitealt/Elaeagnus_umbellata_page.html http://www.fw.vt.edu/DENDRO/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=269 I will be trimming one of these to tree shape and see how it does next year. At the moment it droops to ground when bearing fruit. Rhode Island 2 inches soil sand underneath. Grows healthey and none invasive. Approx 15ft tall 13 ft wide. Refered to as:Deer Berry, DeerBerry,Deer Berries, DeerBerries
Elizabeth H.
Rob Thu Dec 6 2007
I am wondering about using autumn olive as a animal forage (goat). Has anyone tried this?
Elizabeth H.
Mon Dec 8 2008
how did the elaeagnus umbellate come to new england
Elizabeth H.
Scott DiLoreto Sat Feb 14 2009
Is anyone out there aware of any active autumn olive breeding efforts, either for human food or forage purposes? Thanks
Elizabeth H.
Robert Gergulics Sat Apr 11 2009

www.photorobg.com
Elizabeth H.
Fri Dec 4 2009
What date did Elaeagnus Umbellate (Autumn Olive) arive in New England?
Tibi D.
Sep 26 2011 12:00AM
Eleagnus Umbellata grows very fast here in Pacific Northwest. My 3 year old plants are already more than 4m tall. The problem with my 2 bushes is that they have not produced any fruit yet. I also have Goumi and it produced fruit when it was one year old.

Thanks again and thanks to PFAF,

Lawrence London




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