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  • From: "Steve Shambeda" <sshambeda@paonline.com>
  • To: <nafex@egroups.com>
  • Subject: Re: [nafex] Goudreinette
  • Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:46:58 -0400

I have a friend in Holland who sent me this note:

From: frits doornenbal <fritsjet@euronet.nl>

> Hi Steve
>
> The Goudreinette is the name the Dutch use generally for an apple you
> have in your garden: the Beauty of Boskoop (Belle de Boskoop, Schone van
> Boskoop), Boskoop being a village in the centre of the Netherlands, in
> the middle of a fruit area of long standing.
>
> There are a few more Goudreneittes but one of them is of German origin
> and the second one was also described in the 1864 book (as is the
> Schoone van Boskoop !) but disappeared into obscurity.
>

----- Original Message -----
From: dwalsh/wchase <wchase@interchange.ubc.ca>
To: <nafex@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: [nafex] Goudreinette


> Ron,
>
> I'm sort of familiar with a Dutch apple known as Goudreinette/
Houdreinette. The
> Dutch pronounce the first letter in the back of their throats, very
gutteral, so
> even though I've heard it spoken a hundred times, I'm never sure whether
to spell
> it with a G or an H.
> Members of the BC Fruit Testers in this area spent two years on and off
trying to
> track down some G/H apples.
>
> It started when I met an elderly lady of German extract who lived in
Holland and
> then immigrated to Montreal in early 1950's. She told me the
(outstanding) apple
> of her childhood in Holland was G/H.
>
> Since I'm into apples I told her I try and find some for her.
>
> Well I went on quite a search ... Gold Reinette, Golden Reinette, Belle de
> Boskoop. I kept bringing them to her and she said: "No, that's not the
apple I
> remember".
>
> Then I heard of a home 20 miles away bought from a Dutchman who had
grafted ten
> G/H from scionwood brought from Holland. I waited until October and got
some
> apples and indeed, they were the G/H, my elderly friend remembered. The
current
> owners just let them drop and compost them. Some of these trees had a
branch of
> what looked liked Alexander grafted onto G/H tree ... probably as a
pollenizer. B
> de B is triploid.
>
> To me, they look like a B de B, but she said the texture and flavour is
different
> from a B de B. They are large, russetted, yellowish-green-brown. They
are
> coarse-textured, firm, and look just like some of the many variations of B
de B. I
> think it ripens mid-September in this area. I know that when I go to the
property
> in mid-October (for apples to display at the UBC Apple Festival), they
have all
> dropped.
>
> It certainly wouldn't be my apple of choice.
>
> Since then, a friend who is a Dutchman, brought me to meet a farmer who
had about
> six trees of G/H on his farm. He had inherited the dairy farm from his
father was
> a Dutchman who brought the scionwood from Holland in early 1960's. These
people
> squeeze the apples and make a good apple juice, but they don't eat the
apples.
>
> To me, they weren't very tasty, but in post-war Holland, they ate tulip
bulbs so I
> can see them eating these apples!
>
> My guess is they are a variation of B de B, but the flavour and texture is
> different from other B de B variations in this area.
>
> I, and other BCFT members have not been able to find any mention of G/H in
the
> literature.
>
> I did ask members of this group if anyone had heard of G/H I think in
October 1998
> and again in October 1999, but no replies.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Derry
>
> Derry Walsh & Bill Chase email:wchase@interchange.ubc.ca
> Aldergrove, B. C., Canada
> phone/fax (604) 856-9316
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> : A customer contacted us recently and asked if we could locate an old
> : apple variety known as "Goud Reinet" or Gold Reinette. It supposedly
> : originated in the Netherlands, but we do not know much more than that.
>
> Ron Joyner
>
>
>
>
>
>
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