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  • From: "Wieland Willker" <willker AT chemie.uni-bremen.de>
  • To: "Synoptic-L" <Synoptic-L AT bham.ac.uk>, "Mark-List" <GMark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>, "Crosstalk" <crosstalk2 AT yahoogroups.com>
  • Subject: The Wrede/Schmithals theory
  • Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:29:21 +0100


I just came across this article by Walter Schmithals:
New Test. Stud. vol. 45, 1999, pp. 472-497
ZUR GESCHICHTE DER SPRUCHQUELLE Q UND DER
TRADENTEN DER SPRUCHUEBERLIEFERUNG. DAS
SIEBENFACHE WEHE LK 11.37-54 PAR.

Here he presents a curious, but interesting theory. It goes something like
this:
At around 70 CE there were (at least) two Christian parties. On the one hand
followers of
Jesus who saw him only as a messianic prophet, but don't know anything about
him BEING the
Messiah,don't know about miracles and don't know of the resurrection. These
people wrote
the first stratum of the source Q (kind of wisdom literature).
On the other hand there was the group arround Mark. They knew all these
Messiah things and

Mark wrote the first version of his Gospel for this group. Schmithals is able
to extract a
"Grundschrift" from Mark!
Because Mark (or his group) wanted to join the different groups together, he
had to
explain, why the first group didn't know of Jesus Messiah-ship. The famous
Wrede-Messiah
secret theory: He added the Messiah-secret to his Gospel. He also added some
things from
the first Q edition to his Gospel to show good will. After that Q was
rewritten also to
incorporate Messianic things. This way they were able to join everything
together.
Schmithals therefore thinks that the second stratum of Q knows GMark. He also
thinks that
GMark and Q were transmitted together (on one scroll perhaps) and that it was
then only
logical to combine this double-book into one (Lk and Mt). (I
hope I got
this right?)

My Questions:
For Xtalk:
Is a non-Messianic Jesus group as proposed above parallel to a Messianic
group probable?

For Kata Markon/Synoptic-L:
1. What is the current status of separating sources/editions in GMark?
2. What other explanations are there for Wrede's Messiah secret today?
3. Does final Q knows GMark?

Best wishes
Wieland
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Wieland Willker, Bremen, Germany
mailto:willker AT chemie.uni-bremen.de
http://www.uni-bremen.de/~wie/




  • The Wrede/Schmithals theory, Wieland Willker, 03/04/2001

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