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  • From: "Frank Jacks" <cfjacks AT comcast.net>
  • To: "Corpus-Paul" <corpus-paul AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Corpus-Paul] Did Luke knew Paul's letters?
  • Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:45:42 -0400

Greetings and please excuse my jumping in to state the obvious, but then
your observations do assume as an obvious even necessary premise an
assumption which might well not be the case - namely, that the author of the
works we call "Luke-Acts" were in fact written by the Luke mentioned in your
texts. I do not intend to raise this issue for debate but to suggest that
it might be better to pose the question as whether or not the "author of
Luke-Acts" knew some or all or any of Paul's letters rather than
cloud/muddle this question by bringing in this additional issue and not
really necessary aspect. Wouldn't that be wiser?

C. F. Jacks, Th.D.
Professor of Religion, Emeritus
Pikeville College,
Pikeville, KY U.S.A.

(but now happily retired back home in metro Atlanta, GA)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Evans" <Biblewje AT comcast.net>
To: "Corpus-Paul" <corpus-paul AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Corpus-Paul] Did Luke knew Paul's letters?


> Dear Richard and group:
> In response to the questions which follow (no near pun intended 'Fellows')
> and with a dose of reader response criticism in hand in order to avoid all
> of the historical critical issues for this post let me make the following
> points:
> 1) Colossians 4:14 says (if written indeed by Paul) 'Luke the beloved
> physician and Demas greet you.' This seems to at least show that Luke
knew
> and even participated in the Pauline greeting or else Luke was nearby
during
> the writing process, which had to be before 62 CE since a earthquake
> destroyed most if not all of the city of Colossae.
>
> 2) II Timothy 4:11 says (if this letter is also written by Paul) 'Luke is
> alone with me...' but verse 13b 'bring...the books and above all the
> parchments.'
>
> 3) Philemon 24 has Paul mentioning Luke's desire to pass on his greetings
in
> Paul's letter to Philemon.
>
> Having stated my case in number one, it seems to me that numbers two and
> three at least carry overtones of one (Luke) wanting to be included in a
> writing that also might at least have some important function for the
early
> church.
>
> In considering all three of the above references, Luke indeed knew that
Paul
> wrote letters, and Luke also must have known a good deal about their
> contents since he 1) is a constant companion with Paul in many of Paul's
> travels (would Paul have never mentioned to Luke as they traveled along a
> dusty road what he was thinking about writing or what he had written
> concerning a certain situation, etc.?
>
> Regarding Richard's third question below, I will send my greetings and
> request that we address the date of what Luke writes at the terminal
chapter
> of 'Acts' and ask if we really think the final chapter of Acts, (Paul in
> Rome) which follows Luke's travel-journal with Paul, comes earlier than
the
> letters I mentioned above where Luke sends his 'greeting' or where Luke is
> alone with Paul?
>
> simplistic is a product of Postmodernism, but it does have a purpose even
> though I did not think so at my initial exposures to it.
>
> William J Evans Jr





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