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  • From: "Bert Jan Lietaert Peerbolte" <lietaertpeerbolte AT planet.nl>
  • To: "Corpus-paul" <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: corpus-paul digest: June 06, 2001
  • Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:07:54 +0200


Contradiction
To my opinion there is no contradiction. Paul received funds from
congregations he had previously started, and when working among the
Corinthians the Philippians (Phil 4:11) were apparently among those who
supported him. Yet, in 2 Cor 11:8 Paul does not address the Philippians, but
the Corinthians. There, he is in no need to specify exactly who supported
him, whereas in Phil 4:11 there is no need for him to mention all his
benefactors. All our knowledge (also that on Paul) remains partial: all we
can do is reconstruct the top-layer of history.
Bert Jan Lietaert Peerbolte

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> CORPUS-PAUL Digest for Wednesday, June 06, 2001.
>
> 1. Re: Kingdom of God in Paul
> 2. epaphras
> 3. (no subject)
>
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>
> Subject: Re: Kingdom of God in Paul
> From: David Denton <drd AT uq.net.au>
> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:22:58 +1000
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
> Francisco,
>
> That book is James D. Hester, Paul's Concept of Inheritance, Oliver &
Boyd,
> 1968.
>
> David
>
> At 11:50 AM 5/06/01 +0200, you wrote:
> >David,
> >
> >I agree we cannot separate Gal 5,21 from its more or less parallels in 1=
> Cor
> >6:9,10; Eph 5:5 and 1 Cor 15:50; but neither can we forget other kingdom
> >sayings in Paul as Rom 14:17 or 1 Cor 4:20, where the kingdom "is not=
> easily
> >susceptible of a future reference" (Johnston: "Kingdom of God" Sayings in
> >Paul Letters). Not enough, we should read Gal 5,21 in its letter context.
> >
> >The point here is that Paul uses with "kingdom" the verb "inherit", whose
> >lexical field is no doubt rich and "pregnant" in Galatians. Johnston is
> >wright in linking the inheritance of the kingdom with the argument of
> >Abraham and the heirs of the promises (p.148), but then, he interprets
this
> >formula ("<not> to inherit the kingdom") as refering only to future life
in
> >the Age to Come, after resurrection. This is much probably to be the
case=
> of
> >1 Cor 15:50, but may not fit exactly Gal 5:21. In Galatians the believers
> >have already received the Spirit (3:2; 4:6; see 3:14: "the promise of the
> >Spirit" =3D the promised Spirit), they are "children of God" (3:26),=
> Abraham
> >offspring and heirs (3:29), new creation (6:15). Life in the Spirit (Gal
> >5:22) is quite similar to life "in the kingdom" (Rom 1:17). The believers
> >
> >have already inherited what God promised to Abraham; indeed, they are
what
> >God promised to Abraham (the "blessing" of the Gentiles; the gentiles who
> >are blessed by God). Is not this community of the
> >according-to-the-spirit-covenant (Gal 4,29; "new covenant of spirit" in 2
> >Cor 3:6) the actual "kingdom of God", that is to say, the dwelling of
> >God-Spirit in history?
> >
> >=BFcan you give me the full reference of Hester book or article?
> >
> >Francisco Ram=EDrez Fueyo
> >Universidad Pontificia Comillas (Madrid)
> >franramirez AT teo.upco.es
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: David Denton <drd AT uq.net.au>
> >To: Corpus-paul <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 3:56 AM
> >Subject: [corpus-paul] Re: Kingdom of God in Paul
> >
> >
> >> Francisco,
> >>
> >> This does not answer your question, but there are other places in the
> >> Pauline corpus where "inherit the kingdom of God" also occurs & these
may
> >> be helpful in enabling you to make a decision. See 1 Cor 6:9,10; Eph=
> 5:5
> >> & 1 Cor 15:50. The last of these is patently future, but the others
are
> >> closer parallels for they refer to evil-doers who will not inherit the
> >> kingdom. Obviously 1 Cor 6:9,10 is the most similar.
> >>
> >> Have you seen the chapter on your subject in the Beare Festschrift,
From
> >> Jesus to Paul, pp. 143-156?
> >>
> >> Hester has a different comment on p.86 of his Paul's Concept of
> >Inheritance.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Subject: epaphras
> From: Ntsearcher AT aol.com
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:56:11 EDT
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> Has anyone ever read Gene Edward's model of the first century story? Its
in
> his first century diary books published by Tyndale. I'd like to get your
> thoughts on it. A very unique study that reconciles paul and Acts.
>
> Anyways.
>
> he says that Epaphras and Epaphroditus are the same people. Is there any
NT
> scholar that has reached the same conclusion or supports this idea?
>
> Frank Anthony
> Tampa, FL
>
>
>
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>
> Subject: (no subject)
> From: Ntsearcher AT aol.com
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:55:21 EDT
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> Dear List,
>
> I need help with a contradiction.
>
> In Philippians 4:15, Paul tells the Philippian church that when he left
> Macedonia, only they helped him financially.
>
> But...
>
> In 2 Corinthians 11:8, referring to what seems the same time period, Paul
> says he received funds from OTHER churches. plural.
>
> Now. how do we reconcile this contradiction?
>
> Frank Anthony
> Tampa, FL
>
>
>
>
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