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  • From: Rob Myers <robmyers AT mac.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: An Outlandish Suggestion
  • Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:58:34 +0100

On 24 May 2004, at 18:59, Greg London wrote:

I've got no statistics on how many works are licensed SA, etc.
But the way CC presents the licenses in its cartoon FAQ,
the emphasis seems to be on the FreeAdvertising model.
Use NC to get your photo distributed, then when someone
notices and wants to use it commercially, charge them money.

Well they failed with me, I've gone CC-BY-SA. ;-)

So, I think assigning copyright to CC would be a no-go.

Also, the FSF only asks people to do that for their projects,
projects that they started or that people contributed to their
efforts. I think emacs and the gnu-c-compiler are both FSF.
And these were both started by Richard Stallman, and RS started
the FSF, so it was a bit of an inside job of sorts.

This is true. Looked at more abstractly, assignment has two advantages:

1. It makes the work easier to defend. This is essentially a service to the author. This could be achieved by providing documentation on how to pursue infractors, sample cease-and-desist letters, even a letter-writing application (like the license-choosing application). This could all be localised like the licenses are.

2. Along with the employer disclaimer it makes sure ownership of the work is clear. This isn't required for CC, but the Wiki projects and other collaborative works *will* get bitten by this at some point and will need an audit trail.

I have no idea how CC or FSF make money though. contributions?
Volunteers? How many people are on their payroll?

Donations, memberships and sales of manuals, CDs and T-Shirts. UNESCO sponsor the Free Software directory, Stallman got a grant a few years back.

Don't know about the payroll. Lessig's just joined it, though. :-)

My perl book is GNU-FDL. And I just recently discovered
http://www.lulu.com
(started by one of the RedHat founders, by the way)
that does self-publishing via print-on-demand with
ZERO money up front. So I printed my perl book
through them as well. They sell it for $10 and I get $2.
The only reason this works for me is because I could
do it with zero money up front. I did it as a convenient
way for people to get a paperback without it costing
me anything. I didn't do it to get rich. They charge
$10 for a book and I make $2 per book. But if lulu
had charged even a token amount up front, it would not
have made sense for me to put a libre document into POD.

It's an investment. It would cost more than 2 dollars to defend it against any claims from your employer or a random idiot like SCO, or any license breaches by third parties using it. If you can get some paperwork done properly to start with, you're off to a better start.

If CC charged for registration or for using their licenses,
they would have an opportunity to make money,
but they would also shut out anyone who intends on
contributing to a gift economy.

I'm not suggesting they charge for their licenses, that wouldn't make sense. I am suggesting that they, or somebody, provide the services that the FSF and now Linux are using to guard against the SCOs of this world.

- Rob.

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