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  • From: Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>
  • To: cc-hk <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Liberal Studies and CC
  • Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:14:19 +0800

Hi All,

The following link points to the final version. It is being sent to the
printer.
http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/cchk-aatc.pdf

Regards,

Haggen

2009/7/3 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
> Hi All,
>
> An updated version of the paragraphs are listed below. I am just
> waiting for the outstanding image from Australia. I will get it to the
> printer if there is no more input.
>
> About this Booklet
>
> This booklet is adapted from the “Asia and the Commons - Case Studies
> 2008” as an English promotional materials for CCHK. CCHK has taken
> minimal effort in editing but the standing-on-the-shoulders-of-giants
> effect allows us to produce this quality booklet. It is a
> demonstration of the true spirit of Creative Commons in encouraging
> reuse and remix of CC materials and the cooperative atmosphere among
> CC local chapters. We intend to use this booklet to empower every
> sector of Hong Kong’s knowledge industries to capitalise on the
> successes of others, legally.
>
> In total, 16 case studies are included in this booklet, of which none
> comes from Hong Kong. This is largely due to the fact that the CCHK
> was launched after the original booklet was produced by CC Australia.
> This reminds us how much effort we need to put in to catch up with
> other local chapters. If you would like to offer your help, please
> come to our official web at http://hk.creativecommons.org/
>
> This booklet is available for download from the Creative Commons Hong
> Kong website, http://hk.creativecommons.org/resources/english-promotion/
> The original Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008 booklet is also
> available for download from the Creative Commons Australia website,
> http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons
>
> Thanks,
>
> Haggen
>
> 2009/6/29 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>> Thanks Yahong.
>>
>> 99% of the content of this booklet is copied from something, except
>> the following paragraph in the second page. Please check if it is free
>> of grammar mistakes, etc.
>>
>> About this Booklet
>>
>> This booklet is adapted from the "Asia and the Commons - Case Studies
>> 2008" as an English promotion materials for CCHK. CCHK spent minimal
>> effort in editing but the standing-on-theshoulders-of-giants effect
>> allows us to produce this quality booklet. It is a demonstration of
>> reusing and remixing CC materials and how CC local chapters are very
>> willing to help each other. We would like to empower every sector of
>> Hong Kong’s knowledge industries to capitalise with this power of
>> building on others' success, legally.
>>
>> There are 16 case studies in this booklet but none of them comes from
>> Hong Kong. It is because the CCHK launched on 25 Oct 2008, after the
>> original booklet was produced by CC Australia. This is a reminder for
>> us that we need to work extra hard to catch up. If you would like to
>> offer your help, please come to our official web at
>> http://hk.creativecommons.org/
>>
>> This booklet is available for download from the Creative Commons Hong
>> Kong website, http://hk.creativecommons.org/resources/english-promotion/
>> The original Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008 booklet is also
>> available for download from the Creative Commons Australia website,
>> http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Haggen
>>
>> 2009/6/27 Li Yahong <yali AT hku.hk>:
>>> Looks great.  Well done!
>>>
>>> Yahong
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haggen So" <haggenso AT gmail.com>
>>> To: "cc-hk" <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Liberal Studies and CC
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> After much delay, a draft of the English booklet can be found at
>>>> http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/aatc3.pdf
>>>> One image is still missing and we are co-ordinating with CC Australia.
>>>>
>>>> I have inserted a page to introduce to CCHK and added the CCHK logo in
>>>> prominent places. Please comment.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Haggen
>>>>
>>>> 2009/6/11 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> CC Australia has made the raw files for the booklet available for
>>>>> reuse on their web site.
>>>>> http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some ideas on how to alter part of the booklet and I have
>>>>> drafted an introduction for CCHK. Unfortunately, the admin office will
>>>>> be involved in organising the "Conference on Digital Convergence at
>>>>> The University of Hong Kong from June 12-13" and Matthew will be on
>>>>> leave on Monday. I will let everyone know when the CCHK version is
>>>>> ready.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Haggen
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/6/3 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexander,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a good project manager! I am not sure if I can answer all of
>>>>>> them but here are some of the answers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/6/3 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all and Haggen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Australian booklet is fine but as my view, the style maybe not be
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> attractive to me. Will Matthew re-design it and if it is possible or
>>>>>>> allowable to do so coz it is come from Creative Commons Australian?
>>>>>>> And, is
>>>>>>> it a necessary to print a Australian booklet with 60 page full
>>>>>>> version?
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> mean, to the environment and I guess, I guess the booklet should give
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> short and clear and the main idea to the audience about Creative
>>>>>>> Commons and
>>>>>>> the Case Studies and if they are really interested in it, they could
>>>>>>> visit
>>>>>>> CCHK website to download a full version and get more further
>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a discussion with Matthew just before and we will do some
>>>>>> adjustment. I am also asking the Creative Commons Australia for the
>>>>>> raw files. In terms of re-design, I am not sure if Matthew can afford
>>>>>> the time. See if we can come to a compromise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) How is the RTHK CC survey running? I mean the analysis of the
>>>>>>> survey.
>>>>>>> Still waiting the PR department to finish the questionnaire analysis?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is up to RTHK to tell us the update.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) How is the LS training for teachers mentioned before?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I attended the "Liberal Studies Assessment and Media" event on 23th
>>>>>> May (http://www.isoc-hk.org/media-literacy/web.html) and there was a
>>>>>> good discussion on copyright. I also had the chance to introduce CC to
>>>>>> the audience and they were also very interested. I am co-ordinating
>>>>>> with one of the co-organiser, Hong Kong Media Education Resources
>>>>>> Web, to see if we can organise another talk on copyright ASAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and media attention also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original plan was to generate media attention so that there will
>>>>>> be more positive result for the survey. When I talked to our inhouse
>>>>>> media specialist, she pointed out that CC may not be an issue with
>>>>>> urgency. The articles submitted may not be printed on time before the
>>>>>> survey ended.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, I am building a media list so that we can be better
>>>>>> prepared next time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) And will there are any plan to organize a talk in secondary school
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> university to the students in the future?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No yet. But I plan to deliver some of the booklets in person and hear
>>>>>> from friends from different University on how we can better serve and
>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) At last but not the least, as Oiwan mentioned, how is the volunteer
>>>>>>> register system and legco monitor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I did miss out on the volunteer register system. I will follow up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I plan to organise the legco watch after 64, as most who care about
>>>>>> politics are probably occupied by this issue right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a lot of questions and most of them are pointed out before
>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>> can't see any more discussion on it? Feel free to answer my trouble =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Alexander
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> Haggen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your suggestion works fine. That matches my thought perfectly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> SC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haggen So wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r)
>>>>>>> Pro*
>>>>>>> Hi SC,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The plan is to distribution both Chinese and English booklets to
>>>>>>> interested departments and libraries (if possible) in higher
>>>>>>> institutions so that academics and students can easily access these
>>>>>>> materials.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem with the first one is that some information is outdated as
>>>>>>> it was produced in late 2006. To improve it, we may need co-ordination
>>>>>>> and updated information from CC International, which will further
>>>>>>> delay the process. Therefore the approach I adopted before was to use
>>>>>>> ready-made materials.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To partly remedy the short-comings of the booklet "Asia and the
>>>>>>> Commons Case Studies 2008", I will include a two-sided English flyer
>>>>>>> printed during the Launch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haggen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/6/3 sc AT itvoice.hk <sc AT itvoice.hk>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who are the audience of the publication and what is the purpose of the
>>>>>>> publication?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" is more an entry level
>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>> The Australian booklet is a more advanced level publication and it is
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> better one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we afford to have a pamphlet that is a simplified version of the
>>>>>>> first one, and then a full printed version of the Australian booklet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haggen So wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r)
>>>>>>> Pro*
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After searching promotion materials from English speaking
>>>>>>> jurisdictions: Australia, Canada, UK, South Africa and India, I found
>>>>>>> that the booklet "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" may be
>>>>>>> suitable. http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons It is a
>>>>>>> full-colour 60-page booklet with 16 case studies of CC projects in
>>>>>>> Asia and beyond. The shortcomings of this booklet is that there is no
>>>>>>> beginner level introduction of CC and the reader is assumed to have
>>>>>>> some former understanding. Also, we may not be able to print many
>>>>>>> copies of this booklet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to get some feedback from the community these two
>>>>>>> promotion materials: "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" and
>>>>>>> former suggestion, "Encouraging the ecology of creativity from CCi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haggen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/5/21 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there is no further opinion, I will proceed with the logistics for
>>>>>>> English promotion materials.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Current progress:
>>>>>>> I discovered that "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" was produced
>>>>>>> in 2006 (the first page said 2007, but I was told it was done the year
>>>>>>> before)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>>>>>>> I am in the process of contacting CCi and finding out if there is any
>>>>>>> more updated material with similar content.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be on leave next week from 25-29 May. It is just a "holiday
>>>>>>> destroying" exercise and I will still in Hong Kong. I will answer
>>>>>>> emails and if it is really urgent, find my office number from the CCHK
>>>>>>> official web site and one of my colleagues will give you my mobile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haggen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/5/19 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >From my experience as a student at UST and expat contacts who are
>>>>>>> professors
>>>>>>> or students at other universities in HK, I would say that English
>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>> are also important.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Griff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Griffith W. Jones
>>>>>>> insight AT gjones.com
>>>>>>> www.gjones.com
>>>>>>> 852-9738-1170
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haggen So wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just an update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I finally submitted the conference paper yesterday and I can do more
>>>>>>> work on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have done a stocktake and there areabout 3800 copies of Chinese CC
>>>>>>> Education Kit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cc-kit_081006_final.pdf
>>>>>>> We can afford to give 200-300 copies to each distribution point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am also wondering if we need to distribute English material as well,
>>>>>>> as stakeholders in Universities can be expatriates. Currently the
>>>>>>> standard English material is a two-sided Flyer. There are about 230 of
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
>>>>>>> It looks quite unsubstantial compared with the Education Kit. We need
>>>>>>> a reprint if we are going to distribute them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sourced English materials on
>>>>>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Documentation and found "Encouraging
>>>>>>> the ecology of creativity"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>>>>>>> A 13 page a-bit-smaller-than-A4 introductory material on the general
>>>>>>> principles of CC and renowned international projects. This can give a
>>>>>>> complementary view to the Education Kit which is very local.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just want to collect opinion on whether 200-300 copies is a good
>>>>>>> number and whether English material will be important.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haggen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/5/14 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a great respond. I am still working on my paper but most of it
>>>>>>> is written now. Let me give some feedbacks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/5/13 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure if CCHK should do the same case to the Hong Kong
>>>>>>> institute
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Vocational Education as in the University.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexander
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, we can try that as well. Do you have any contacts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/5/13 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about HKUST?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Griff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everyone please suggest. I do have a distant contact. I will try, but
>>>>>>> don't know if if will work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Media email list
>>>>>>> I keep a collection of Hong Kong News articles published about CC from
>>>>>>> pre-launch to Apr 09 (e.g. http://cchk.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+6 ) I
>>>>>>> will work on that and of course, I will ask Velentina, our inhouse
>>>>>>> veteran, for help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am also sourcing some English materials from
>>>>>>> http://creativecommons.org/about/downloads/ and other place for
>>>>>>> non-Chinese audience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haggen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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