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  • From: "Rebecca MacKinnon" <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Chong Chan-yau" <chanyau AT hku.hk>
  • Cc: marco AT montaniglobal.com, cc-hk <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Peter Yu <peter_yu AT msn.com>, ying chan <yychan AT hku.hk>
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Saturday meeting follow-up
  • Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:03:15 +0800

Chan Yau,
Thanks for your input. Right now CC-HK is being run as a project under the Journalism & Media Studies Centre at Hong Kong University. Via the JMSC we are able to accept donations and funds from sponsors or foundations. Most CC organizations in most countries tend to be run as projects of university departments. Thus for the time being we have not been considering setting up CC as an independent company or charity. It seems like the process of setting up an independent entity might require a greater amount of funding and might delay the launch further. But perhaps I'm wrong?
Rebecca

On Jan 30, 2008 5:23 PM, Chong Chan-yau <chanyau AT hku.hk> wrote:
Dear All,
Sorry I couldn't make it.
I'm excited by the progress.
The notes do not seem to contain reference to the need for setting a formal organization to run CC.
Is this being considered?
Do we need a 'company limited by guarantee' to 'run and promote' CC?
Rgds.
Chan Yau


From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca MacKinnon
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:38 PM
To: cc-hk
Cc: Marco marco AT montaniglobal.com; Peter Yu; ying chan
Subject: [Cc-hk] Saturday meeting follow-up

Hello everybody!

Thanks so much to those of you who came to our planning meeting last Saturday. From now until the launch (exact timing tba) it was agreed we should have monthly gatherings to touch base and exchange ideas. Ben will be in charge of organizing those.

Thanks to Ben for posting meeting notes. I've also posted a list of the attendees (first names only) on the wiki here:
http://cchk.wetpaint.com/page/Jan+26
For convenience I am also pasting Ben's notes at the bottom of this email.

Here is where we now stand:

- We agreed on a timeline for license consulation and completion of the license, to be spearheaded by Yahong and Alice with assistance from Ben and Henry and others as needed.
- The launch will no longer be on June 15th because people felt we can't do it properly if combined with the Chinese internet research conference at HKU.
- After the meeting a number of us had further discussion via e-mail about the launch timing. Due to our present limitations on resources, time and personnel, we realized it's actually unrealistic to do a full public launch in June if we are going to do it separately from the other conference.
- Therefore, the current plan is to do a "soft launch" of the license in June and aim for a formal public launch, with VIPs and media and celebrations and whatever else, in the Fall or Winter.

Because this e-mail list has been made public in order to invite public discussion of the CC-HK draft license (which we need a lot more of!), Ben has created a new google group for everybody who is interested in being involved with the launch in any way. If you have not been added and want to be on it please e-mail  him at chpapa AT gmail.com

We remain very excited about launching CC  in Hong Kong in 2008, but we want to make sure we do it right.

Thanks!
Rebecca

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NOTES FROM JAN.26 MEETING:

Important Point / Quick Agreement
- If we want to have the license by late-June, final draft of license have to be done by early to mid-May
- Legal team expresses that the difficult part is the choice of terminology. The terms have to be easy to understand and also in-compliance with legal requirement.
- It is important to change the culture, and get more supportors, independent contributors.
- We need to change the date of CC-HK Launch, decoupling with CIRC (the original schedule is to have it at 15 June) (Note: It was generally agreed that we need to reconsider weather a June launch is a good idea after the meeting)
- A CC-HK Education Kit which should includes local show case of copyright problem and how CC may help was suggested.
- Generally agreed that we should use the general CC logo but a slogan specific for CC-HK is acceptable.
- A new email group for preparing the CC-HK launch will be created for those who will commit to help the launch. To avoid sending lots more email to the general CC-HK mailing list.

Todo's
- Yahong: Need to find a people to translate the license into Chinese (next week or after CNY)
- Macro: Contact collecting society for comments
- Alice: Will send out a clear version of the draft license
- Someone? : Inform the government about the draft of CC-HK
- Aaron: Find some companies want to use CC
- Rebecca: Will check with Lessig for another CC Launching Day
- Ben: Draft a timeline and budget plan for the CC-HK education kit.

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Rebecca MacKinnon
Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
University of Hong Kong   (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
Blog: http://RConversation.blogs.com
Co-founder: http://GlobalVoicesOnline.org
"The world is talking. Are you listening?"



--
Rebecca MacKinnon
Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
University of Hong Kong   (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
E-mail: rmack AT hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
Blog: http://RConversation.blogs.com
Co-founder: http://GlobalVoicesOnline.org
"The world is talking. Are you listening?"


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