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  • From: Danny Piccirillo <danny.piccirillo AT member.fsf.org>
  • To: Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization in particular <discuss AT freeculture.org>
  • Cc: cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org, FSF Community Team <fsf-community-team AT gnu.org>, cc-community AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-devel] [FC-discuss] Ubiquitous funding system for free culture projects?
  • Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:33:32 -0400

Someone just pointed that out on Identi.ca but it seems to be restricted to nonprofits =\

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:31, Danny Piccirillo <dyp11 AT hampshire.edu> wrote:
Someone just pointed that out on Identi.ca but it seems to be restricted to nonprofits =\


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:25, Thomas Levine <thomas.levine AT gmail.com> wrote:
https://github.com/beexsvn/Beex.org

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Danny Piccirillo <danny.piccirillo AT member.fsf.org> wrote:
Seems there has still not been much progress on this front, but i've bumped the discussion about it on Identi.ca http://identi.ca/conversation/34663785

This is something i've found which may be useful (or not): 

Mayhaps we should start a Kickstarter project to make a free software Kickstarter alternative [=

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 09:37, Samuel Klein <sj AT laptop.org> wrote:
Danny,

This is a brilliant idea.

You're right that changing this to public expectation is essential --
and doable.
Right now a lot of websites support themselves in part through a cut
of the support given to artists through their sites, so it's important
to think about what that means... something like sending a share of
donation proceeds to the online label-equivalent.

Mozilla Drumbeat might be a great group to engage here.

SJ


On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Danny Piccirillo
<danny.piccirillo AT member.fsf.org> wrote:
> I've been thinking about this idea for a while, and since a related question
> has been posted for Reddit's upcoming interview with Richard Stallman, i
> thought i'd finally make a post. The idea is basically to create a fully
> featured funding platform so that sites like Jamendo.com don't have to
> duplicate efforts enabling people to support works they appreciate. Please
> let me know what you think
>
> http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/06/free-culture-projects-need-ubiquitous.html
> (http://www.reddit.com/tb/cbaul)
> The free culture movement, which is of a whole with the free software
> movement, has made a lot of great progress but is still struggling to prove
> itself to be economically viable in the mainstream. I might even go so far
> as to say that a lack of a better funding system is the single biggest thing
> holding back many existing and many more prospective free culture projects.
> Imagine if Add/Remove Applications and the Ubuntu Software Center prompted
> downloaders with a "Donate" button that enabled users to easily support
> projects. Imagine if last— ahem— libre.fm displayed the same button for
> artists. Imagine if the idea of giving in order to support the production of
> work you appreciate went from public appeal to the public's expectation.
>
> Currently the Software Freedom Conservancy exists as a fiscal sponsor for
> free software projects which "provides member projects with free financial
> and administrative services, but does not involve itself with technological
> and artistic decisions." In short, member projects get the protections of a
> corporate entity without actually having to form and maintain one.
>>
>> By joining the Conservancy, member FOSS projects obtain the benefits of a
>> formal legal structure while keeping themselves focused on software
>> development. These benefits include, most notably, the ability to collect
>> earmarked project donations and protection from personal liability for the
>> developers of the project. Another benefit of joining the Conservancy is
>> that projects can use it to hold assets, which are managed by the
>> Conservancy on behalf of and at the direction of the project. The
>> Conservancy is a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization, so member projects can
>> receive tax-deductible donations to the extent allowed by law.
>
> The grander vision that is needed for free culture would require the
> infrastructure to scale plus provide more features. The primary motivation
> for this system would be more broad: to support free culture by providing
> free financial and administrative services to projects. This
> pay-what-you-want app store of sorts would differ from what the Software
> Freedom Conservancy offers in two ways.
>
> Firstly, it would not be exclusive to software, but any free cultural works.
> It might even make sense to welcome non free culture projects to join, but
> perhaps only provide full benefits to verified free culture projects. For
> example, donations to non free culture projects may not be tax deductible,
> and/or a 10% fee on donations could apply to donations towards unverified
> projects while verified and approved free culture projects receive the full
> benefits of the program for free. Then again, an approval system might be
> hard to scale, and this being a funding system project, it could of course
> be used to fund itself.
>
> Secondly, and this is the ambitious part, the platform would need to make
> the process streamlined so that any project could join. It should be
> developed as a free and, if possible, federated service. This service should
> allow projects to collect donations through a variety of means. Projects
> should be able to display buttons or widgets on their own website, and it
> should be possible, as mentioned at the beginning of this post, for desktop
> applications like Add/Remove Applications and the Ubuntu Software Center to
> display "donate" buttons. Beyond basic one-time donation functionality,
> support could also be added for fundraising campaigns with a set goal (think
> Kickstarter) and repeating contributions for subscriptions.
>
> If such a system were in place which provided programmers, writers, and
> artists a platform to easily accept donations directly from their followers,
> free culture projects will be able to expand and prove viable on a much,
> much larger scale. So, who do you think has the resources for such a
> project? Which organizations would be interested in contributing?
>
> --
> .danny
>
> ☮♥Ⓐ - http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo
> Every (in)decision matters.
>
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