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  • From: David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>
  • To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Y(D
  • Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT)

Pere,

So then how do you translate Am3:3 which "shares the root"

2. Only you have I known of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
3. Can two walk together, unless they are in agreement?

This translation comes from Judaic Classics - it is not my own.  Clearly the context suggests that there is a prob;em / issue between G-d and Yisrael.  This is not about making an appointment. This is about be able to work together.
 This clearly does not mean "except they were summoned to meet?” as Karl suggests.

David Kolinsky
Monterey CA


From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
Cc: David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>; B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 3:42:58 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Y(D

David,
 
Karl is right: no meaning "to endure with / tolerate" in Am 3:3.
 
I see no relation between this Niphal (Am 3:3) and the word in Ex 21:8 (unless, of course, that they share the root).
 
For the pattern of the word in Am 3:3 look also at Ez 26:19 (root ya$ab) and Ps 77:20 (root yada')
 
Greetings
 
Pere Porta


 
2013/5/2 K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
David:

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:18 PM, David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Dear list members.

Part of Karl's comment is indeed correct - I made a mistake with the identification of the root.  It is indeed Y(D as Karl pointed out.  Nevertheless, I stand by the basic point of my comment "that Amos 3:3 is the niphal of the same root and means "to endure with / tolerate."

“Do two people go together except they were summoned to meet?” Amos 3:3

Where is the “to endure with / tolerate”?
 
  And that this equally applies to Ex21:8.

I would be delighted to hear your comments,

David Kolinsky
Monterey CA

Karl W. Randolph. 


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