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  • From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • To: Michael Abernathy <mabernathy AT conwaycorp.net>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Why )ET instead of )"T
  • Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:21:00 +0200

1. Difference segol-tsere in preposition )T.
In the Hebrew Bible both are found.
Whether it has segol or tsere has nothing to do with its meaning.
And so, in Jdg 8:7 it appears five times (with conjunction W or without it):
the first three it is the object marker while the last two mean "with".

Remark: in today Israeli Hebrew only segol is used.

2. So, this preposition means the object marker or "with" depending on the
context.
Now, in the declension it behaves differently: as object marker it takes
vowel [i] while as preposition 'with' it takes vowel [o].

And so:

-)ITIY, with me (Jdg 1:3)
-)OTIY, me (Gn 34:30)

Kind regards from

Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Northeastern Spain)



2011/6/17 Michael Abernathy <mabernathy AT conwaycorp.net>

> Both really.
>
>
> On 6/17/2011 1:25 PM, Pere Porta wrote:
> > Michael,
> > The subject title of your post seems to point to the difference
> > segol-tsere.
> > While the body of you post points to the double meaning (with and
> > object marker) of preposition aleph-tav.
> > Are you interested in the first or in the second issue?
> > Kind regards from
> > Pere Porta
> >
> > 2011/6/17 Michael Abernathy <mabernathy AT conwaycorp.net
> > <mailto:mabernathy AT conwaycorp.net>>
> >
> > I was just reading Genesis 37:2 when I noticed that the word for
> > with is
> > written the same as the direct object marker where it says Joseph was
> > shepherding the flock with his brothers.
> >
> > ????? ????? ???-?????? ????????
> >
> > HAYAH RO)EH(ET-(EXAYN
> >
> > Does this reflect an alternate pronunciation, was the scribe
> > suggesting
> > that Joseph was supervising his brothers, or is there another
> > reason for
> > the spelling?
> > Sincerely,
> > Michael Abernathy
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> > --
> > Pere Porta
> >
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Pere Porta




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