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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: "Nir cohen - Prof. Mat." <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] A question for Isaac Fried
  • Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:35:23 -0400

1. You should get yourself the two very useful booklets

ד"ר שאול ברקלי, לוח הפעלים השלם
ד"ר שאול ברקלי, לוח השמות השלם

2. This is the common wisdom explanation: that the dagesh in the G of XOGU, 'celebrate', is to show that this G is one for two. In Na. 2:1 we find XAGIY חָגִּי with a qamac under the X and still a dagesh in the G. In Ex. 12:14 it is TXAGUHU תְּחָגֻּהוּ also with a qamac. In Ps. 107:27 we find YAXOGU יָחוֹגּוּ in the sense of reel, written with a "full" xolam, yet still with a dagesh in the G.

In Gen. 8:1 we find VA-YA$OK-U וַיָּשֹׁכּוּ with a patax in the V, a dagesh in the Y, and another dagesh in the K. Here too, the common wisdom explanation is that the dagesh in this K is to show that it is one for two. I can not bring myself to believe that a dot was inserted into the bosom of the Hebrew letter K just to inform us that a second one is hiding under the first. For what?

3. Do you mean in SHORSHI, TABNITIY?

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On May 17, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. wrote:

isaac,

>>> But there are exceptions: there is a dagesh in the G of XOGU, following a xolam.

can you send me the reference? clearly if it comes from XGG then, from my point of view,
a dagesh on the G is required! if it comes from XWG then i cannot explain it.

>>> We see that a dagesh follows HA-, yet it is absent in HA-MDABR- IYM הַמְדַבְּרִים of Ex.6:27. Why?

maybe the second dagesh forte is the reason why the first dagesh forte was removed.
just for the argument, let's assume dagesh forte did signal consonant gemination. then it would be difficult
to maintain BOTH geminations in sequence for reasons of meter, in HAMEDABRIM. try it!

now, since the second dagesh is SHORSHI, the first dagesh is sacrificed.

voila...

nir cohen





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