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  • From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] Respose canaanites and Language etc. and Suggested Reading
  • Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 09:02:29 -0700 (PDT)


The following statement by Joel Stucki is simply wrong:

....."Basically anything earlier than the Davidic Monarchy
is hopelessly lost to time and lack of records. While there is
nothing that would make the biblical story impossible (although
there are a few rough spots), there is also nothing to support it...."

One need not be a fundamentalist, a maximalist or an Israeli
nationalist to be familiar with facts that are in flat contradiction to
such statements.It is true that people like Yitshak Sapir and others
regurgitate such claims.Those who make them do not let facts
confuse their pre-established opinions.

Since this list specifes another subject, I won't discuss the historicity
even in broadest outline. Let me just mention a few titles for those who
may wish to acquaint themselves with this matter:

For a thorough general introduction:

On the Reliability of the Old Testament by K. A. Kitchen

This is based on a vast collection of extra-biblical materials from
the entire Ancient Near East. Indispensable for anyoneone interested
in the historicity of the HB.
The author, in addition to being a prominent Egyptologist, studied
and published on wider ANE subjects, including the multi volume work
on South Arabian Inscriptions. Incidentally this book is written in a
very readable, easy to follow style.

A few more titles:

Israel in Egypt , subtitled The evidence for the Authenticity of the
Exodus Tradition by James K. Hoffmeier. The author is a biblical
scholar and and Egyptologist .

Windows into Old Testament History ed. by V. Philip Long, David. W.
Baker and Gordon J.Wenham.

Mesopotamia and the Bible ed. by Mark W. Chavalas and K.Lawson Younger,
Jr.

Sacred Time Sacred Place, subtitled Archaeology and the Religion of
Israel ed.by Barry. M. Gittlen.

In addition, many issues of the magazine Biblicial Archaeological Review
deal with this subject. The magazine is aimed at the general public , yet
many articles are written by specialists in the field.

Cheers,

Uri Hurwitz





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Subject: [b-hebrew] Yemenite Jews - pronounciation differences
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I understand that the Yemenite Jews pronounce the UnDageshed Dalet as a soft
'th' as in English; that they pronounce the Dageshed Gimmel as in English
'George' and the 'Vav' as 'wor' (ie not as a hard 'V' when a consonant),
they also pronounce the UnDageshed Tav also like 'th' in English so to
speak.

My question surrounds the only comment that I read, (without any fuller
explanation dissappointingly), and that was QUOTE"....this is an ancient,
correct and pure pronounciation". As confirmed by other eminent Jewish
scholars. My problem is threefold:

1. Historical sources are conflicting in saying either that the yemenite
jews were in this region beginning with Solomon, that they came just before
Ezra, that they arrived in 200 AD? If any of these are correct that would
mean that the masoretes were well aware of their pronounciation?

2. IF this is a correct and pure pronounciation, how are these scholars able
to establish this?

3. IF number two is true.......Why is the biblical hebrew pronounced
differently as regards the aforementioned letters?

Thankyou Chris. (By the way I do read all posts and have gained in a
positive way from the Canaanite subject - Thankyou to Peter, yigal, Karl,
everyone - even Yitzhak)

Chris Watts
Ireland





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