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  • From: decaen AT chass.utoronto.ca (Vincent DeCaen)
  • To: b-hebrew AT franklin.metalab.unc.edu
  • Subject: BH TMA, Bryan, II
  • Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:16:16 -0500 (EST)


> Hi Vince, you wrote:
> >
> > but let me ask you: do you think it is possible to argue hebrew "hayu
> > kotevim" is a "verb form"? and in what way would it be different from
> > english "were writing" ...?
>
> My first reservation would be in thinking of HYH as a be-verb. I don't
> think it is. I think it means "become,happen" so that hayu kotevim means
> they had become writers. I think hayah lo means specifically that it *had
> become* his rather than it *was* his. hu' lo would be it was (is) his. I
> think HYH is closer to Gr ginomai than eimi.

would you not grant the generally progressive reading, then, of such
constructions...?

> Do you need a copulative verb form for your model?

did you see my piece in "The Verbless Clause in Biblical Hebrew"? i'm not
even sure i'd call it a copula... "dummy-do" in english transformational
grammar is closer to the mark: so by analogy, "dummy-HYH" ...?

> > btw, are coming up for the SBL ...?
> I am scheduled to preach Sun.

i'm sorry, am i missing a joke? are you preaching at the SBL...? might do
some of them good ... ;-)

>
> B. M. Rocine

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Hebrew Syntax Encoding Initiative (HSEI)
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