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Re: [acawiki-general] [Wiki-research-l] Proposal: new hosting for AcaWiki
- From: Mike Linksvayer <ml AT gondwanaland.com>
- To: Erik Moeller <erik AT wikimedia.org>
- Cc: Danese Cooper <dcooper AT wikimedia.org>, Jon Phillips <jon AT fabricatorz.com>, payers AT wikimedia.org, acawiki-general AT lists.ibiblio.org, Research into Wikimedia content and communities <wiki-research-l AT lists.wikimedia.org>
- Subject: Re: [acawiki-general] [Wiki-research-l] Proposal: new hosting for AcaWiki
- Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:40:38 -0700
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 14:21, Erik Moeller <erik AT wikimedia.org> wrote:
SMW isn't crucial for any current site features; it's just an implementation alternative. Maybe that will change in the future, but I think a large community of contributors is vastly more important to a good future than any technical increment. At present however, I think the community is too small to even do the work of migrating away from SMW though. :-\
That's extremely exciting to hear, irrespective of eventual utility to AcaWiki. Wow! (Yes, I see "hoping", not reading certainty into above.)
Sounds good. I'll make sure CC facilitates such a move, and bug AcaWiki people until it happens. :-)
Mike
2011/4/3 Mike Linksvayer <ml AT gondwanaland.com>:
> Neeru should speak up on disposition of the project, but IMO:Hm, AcaWiki without SMW? That seems like it would greatly diminish the
> * Folding into a WMF project would be by far the best outcome, whatever
> changes that would ential
value of the resource.
SMW isn't crucial for any current site features; it's just an implementation alternative. Maybe that will change in the future, but I think a large community of contributors is vastly more important to a good future than any technical increment. At present however, I think the community is too small to even do the work of migrating away from SMW though. :-\
SMW is still a big heap of "untrusted code" from our perspective that
we're not prepared to host on our main cluster yet, and our
virtualized cluster for prototype sites is still pretty fragile. We're
hoping to greatly expand it into a proper "labs" infrastructure
through this calendar year, which would prepare us to host projects
like AcaWiki with relative ease.
That's extremely exciting to hear, irrespective of eventual utility to AcaWiki. Wow! (Yes, I see "hoping", not reading certainty into above.)
My recommendation would be to go with an SMW hosting provider for now,
to help grow and nurture the wiki, and to consider a WMF migration
towards end-of-2011. Mike, let me know if you want us to help with the
hosting costs. IMO AcaWiki needs to get the tools that AcaWiki needs
first and foremost, and shouldn't be constrained by WMF hosting
parameters at this point in its development.
Sounds good. I'll make sure CC facilitates such a move, and bug AcaWiki people until it happens. :-)
Mike
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Re: [acawiki-general] Proposal: new hosting for AcaWiki,
Reid Priedhorsky, 04/01/2011
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Re: [acawiki-general] Proposal: new hosting for AcaWiki,
Jodi Schneider, 04/02/2011
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Reid Priedhorsky, 04/02/2011
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Re: [acawiki-general] [Wiki-research-l] Proposal: new hosting for AcaWiki,
Mike Linksvayer, 04/03/2011
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Reid Priedhorsky, 04/26/2011
- Re: [acawiki-general] Action plan for AcaWiki hosting change (was: Proposal: new hosting for AcaWiki), Jon Phillips, 04/26/2011
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- Re: [acawiki-general] Action plan for AcaWiki hosting change, Reid Priedhorsky, 04/29/2011
- Re: [acawiki-general] [Wiki-research-l] Action plan for AcaWiki hosting change, Jodi Schneider, 04/29/2011
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[acawiki-general] Action plan for AcaWiki hosting change (was: Proposal: new hosting for AcaWiki),
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Jon Phillips, 04/17/2011
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Re: [acawiki-general] Proposal: new hosting for AcaWiki,
Jodi Schneider, 04/02/2011
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