[Poly-p-ux] Hi all just installed poly-p-ux on a 586
jdmulloy at gmail.com
Tue Aug 5 19:04:18 EDT 2008
Is it possible to get gcc onto my poly-p-ux installation? I'm going to try
using build root to cross compile things on my Gentoo laptop and see if I
can get the to run on the Pentium box. I'm going to start with links, I've
managed to get it's dependencies down to glibc, obviously I'm going to have
to get it compiled statically or against uClibc which would be preferred
since we want to minimize our memory footprint. What version of build root
did you use for i586 0.01? I will try with the latest svn version but If I
can download the same version you have then it will be more compatible. It
may help the project if we could get a build system bundled up into a
tarball for people to download. It will also help if people want to build
applications for the system, then they can make them available and they can
be packaged. As for lilo do you have anything in progress that you can make
available or should I just grab sources from the lilo site? If you could
make your build root config files available that would be immensely helpful.
jdmulloy at gmail.com
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Joseph Mulloy <jdmulloy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joseph Mulloy
> jdmulloy at gmail.com
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:55 AM, Poly-p man <polypolyman at ibiblio.org>wrote:
>> On Tuesday 05 August 2008 01:56:38 am Joseph Mulloy wrote:
>> > Hi all I've just installed poly-p-ux on the oldest working machine I
>> > have. It's a Gateway G5-233. Here are the specs.
>> > 233 MHz Pentium-MMX
>> > 32 MB 66 MHz SD-RAM
>> > 2564 MB Quantum Fireball HD
>> nice specs... too bad there's no actual MMX support in poly-p-ux :D
> I don't really care too much about not having MMX
>> > I know it's at the upper end of what poly-p-ux is supposed to be for
>> > but it runs nice.
>> This time around, even though it's excruciatingly difficult to get
>> going (because I have 3 - no, 4 systems I need to build twice each, then
>> manually compile and configure everything...), I'm building an i686
>> to support all the people who think their Pentium 2 box is "old"
> Why bother with i686? Debian or even Gentoo would work fine on an i686
> class machine, heck the machine I'm using for poly-p-ux could handle debian
> just fine, especially since I have more ram lying around that I could use.
> I've got two nearly identical i686 class machines if you want testing done.
> If you want at some point I could setup ssh access to the machines for you.
>> 1.0 is delayed, but only because it's hard to release... I'll put more
>> into it probably today and over the next week.
>> > You may have seen me on the Gentoo Forums as jdmulloy. I thought I'd
>> > give this thing a try on real hardware. I've attached some edited init
>> > scripts to this email. I made the swap script use /etc/fstab to
>> > configure swap instaed of hard coding it into the script. All I needed
>> > there was the -a flag for swapon which actually does the work. I also
>> > made the modules script loop through a list of modules in
>> > /etc/modules.autoload to load kernel modules on boot. Hope you like
>> > it.
>> For swap, I think I tried that on one of my older incarnations, with an
>> busybox version - I think swaponoff -a has been added - I'll have to check
>> the mailing list.
>> For modules... that is awesome! I was working on a modules.autoload system
>> while back... never got it to work. The most important part is options...
>> example, for my 486's network card, I need to load ne with the options
>> io=0x280 irq=3. looking at your script, will that work?
> Try it out, it Should work, it just calls modprobe and then appends
> whatever is on the current line of the file. I haven't made it too smart
> yet, so you can't do commments, (well it probably won't hurt anything but it
> will try to modeporbe your comments).
> Just put "ne io=0x280 irq=3" into the file /etc/modules.autoload and it
> should work.
>> Also... with my new, improved init, stop actually gets called... not that
>> matters with modules anyway... :D
>> > Is there anything that needs to be worked on? Any thing you need
>> > tested on i586? Can I get a copy of the build environment? Thanks.
>> Testing would be nice after release... currently I have nothing to test!
>> The build environment is Buildroot... I'll upload all my config files at
>> If you want to be a huge help, get my builds of LILO going - I'm dropping
>> because it's slow :D . Currently, my 486 box (upgraded to it's 850mb hard
>> drive) is a complete development environment, so building LILO there
>> an issue... if you could try building for all the archs (or at least
>> for 386), that would help me tons!
> I could try building for 386 but I don't have any to test on. Is grub
> really that slow on older machines?
>> > It's nice to have this old box doing something useful again. At some
>> > point I'm going to see if I can get links to run on it, unless anyone
>> > knows of an even smaller browser.
>> That was one of the packages I was trying to get compiled on the old
>> versions... links, lynk, elinks, anything... I had MAJOR trouble with
> I tried to compile it statically on my Gentoo laptop and it wouldn't
> complie. When I removed the static flag I ran ldd on the binary and it had a
> large list of dependencies. It can probably be made to work hardware wise,
> but it may need a lot of disk space for all the dependencies. What's the
> target disk usage?
>> At the release of 1.0, I'll upload tarballs of the development environment
>> (chroot into it to have fun) for people who care.
>> > I wrote this email on my Pentium box running poly-p-ux on links
>> > running on my server which I'm accessing over ssh.
>> That's great! Honestly, just having a usable old system (even if it means
>> using dropbear to connect to a server) means so much for this project... I
>> have my 486 set up such that it's much more comfortable to use it... can't
>> wait until I get kdrive and friends up - the system WILL be a beast... I
>> it :D
>> Thanks for showing an interest,
>> poly-p man
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