[permaculture] Carbon farming as solution to climate change?

Steven & Margaret Eisenhauer eisenhauerdesign at earthlink.net
Wed Apr 28 20:11:16 EDT 2010


Hello Cory,
We are in the Champlain valley of the Adirondacks - upstate New York USA.
We are in the Adirondack Park in the historic apple growing region
sandwiched between Lake George and Lake Champlain.  We have just had a
record setting storm with northern New York and Northern Vermont getting up
to 20" of snow (April 27th - 28th).  We had just a little snow that
collected on our apple blossoms that are at the pink stage.  This is after
unusually warm weather which put us about a month ahead of schedule with
apple development.

Steven Eisenhauer

-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:permaculture-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Cory Brennan
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:40 AM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Carbon farming as solution to climate change?

A couple of articles on carbon sequestration of biochar

http://www.biochar.org/joomla/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biochar

What part of the country are you in? I'm mainly familiar with tropical/semi
tropical applications. Just read about a company in Iowa that is using
biochar to grow corn...

Cory


--- On Thu, 4/22/10, Steven & Margaret Eisenhauer
<eisenhauerdesign at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Steven & Margaret Eisenhauer <eisenhauerdesign at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Carbon farming as solution to climate change?
> To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 3:56 PM
> Hello,
> I have been generating charcoal with my down draft
> gasification boiler and
> composting with it.  I will be amending our 10 acres
> of orchard and gardens
> with it.  I hope it will help with our heavy clay
> soils.  With all the talk
> of carbon farming it got me thinking about the last 1000 -
> 2000 years of
> traditional farming that relied on the cycle of rotational
> cropping with the
> grazing of sod as a fertility builder, resulting in the
> sequestration of
> carbon as organic matter.  Then add in all the
> charcoal sequestered as terra
> preta over centuries or millennia. I wonder what the
> cumulative effect of
> this carbon sequestration has had on climate over such a
> long period.  I
> gather that industrial farming has been running on the
> burning off of this
> carbon resulting in depleted soils and lost fertility as
> well as wide spread
> disease from under mineralized soils.   
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]
> On Behalf Of Cory
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:59 AM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Carbon farming as solution to
> climate change?
> 
> Anybody working with Terra preta to sequester carbon/build
> soils? We're
> experimenting with it in florida's semitropical sandy
> soils
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Holger Hieronimi <holger at tierramor.org>
> wrote:
> 
> Hola-
> 
> Like every strategy in permaculture, the power lies in
> relationships and a
> systemic perspective -
> 
> There always exists the danger of over-promotion one
> "solution" (f. ex. :
> Carbon sequestering in soils by raising organic matter), if
> we don´t put it
> in context with all the other proposals that permaculture
> offers- ethical
> and design principles of PC provide an essential framework
> here, as Darren
> points out-
> 
> I recently purchased "Priority One" by Alan Yeomans (often
> cited as one of
> the basic books en relation to carbon farming) and am quite
> surprised &
> intrigued by the authors insistence in nuclear energy and
> biofuels. He gets
> even so far, that he denounces a conspiracy of Oil
> Companies and
> Environmental Activists TOGETHER, against Nuclear Energy.
> 
> O.K, this guy is a nuclear physicist and probably defends
> his playground,
> but it seems that the "big message" ("sequestering all
> excess CO2 in the
> atmosphere with agriculture in 10 years") gets diluted and
> loses
> considerable credibility and even relevance, if this means
> that we have to
> build hundreds of nuclear power plants and cultivate
> biodiesel ...
> 
> Addressing climate change without considering resource
> constrains, is a well
> explored strategy used by governments, corporations and
> other technocrats.
> Its part of the problem.
> 
> Regards
> 
> holger
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> El 13:59, Darren Doherty escribió:
> Thanks Toby,
> 
> No insult was felt from Rain's post: I am indeed glad that
> he voiced the
> opinion that he did such that I could respond and that you
> could too
> Toby....
> 
> Look from my perspective its a clear issue that we all have
> to take on in
> every activity: the Permaculture Ethics provide this
> blueprint and for me I
> take them very seriously...the Holistic Management Decision
> Making framework
> only aids this process in determining for me (and many
> others) the way to
> ensuring that they decisions we make around things like air
> travel, burning
> brush, felling this tree or that, using cement, flail
> mowing, sowing or
> grazing etc etc. effect positively the Primary Client
> (Gaia), its
> inhabitants and their financial situations.
> 
> Of course I have been charged with being Carbon Negative
> (my preference of
> semantry!) many times and I have done the math many times
> to prove that I
> and my family emit far, far less carbon than we sequester:
> especially in
> soil carbon but also in vegetation stores (of millions of
> trees actually -
> about 2.5million or so at last count)....what concerns me
> is how much Carbon
> send out of the mouths without returning it to the
> lithosphere (Carbon
> positivity!) and that is the ultimate challenge to all of
> us in every
> activity: that's being a conscious being in this day and
> age....
> 
> So moving on from the adversarial to the action-based
> process I commend to
> all to get moving on working in whatever way you can from
> the policy level
> through to the land on getting ourselves and Gaia back into
> some kind of
> order: its the least we can all do to reply to our
> wholesale insult to
> her....
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Darren
> 
> 
> 
> 
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