[permaculture] Sharon Astyk: "Permaculture Future?: Part I"

Robert Waldrop bwaldrop at cox.net
Mon Jun 29 15:44:05 EDT 2009


One of the issues Sharon raises in the article is 
how permaculture would/will fare in a situation 
where rapid catastrophic changes come upon us, 
whether it be through climactic change, war, 
revolution, fascist governments, resource 
exhaustion, etc.

For those interested in applying permaculture 
concepts and strategies to such questions. . . 
Oklahoma City Mutual Aid is a nascent planning 
process that is working on a contingency plan in 
case things go from bad to worse a lot faster than 
we otherwise hope. 
http://www.energyconservationinfo.org/okcmutual.htm 
has my speaker's notes from a presentation last 
year here in OKC, the brainstorming charts we 
produced about challenges/resources/solutions of 
such a situation, and printable flyers that can be 
freely downloaded, reproduced, and stored for use 
during emergencies.

These resources are site-specific to central 
Oklahoma, but could be adapted for use anywhere.

Robert Waldrop, Oklahoma City
www.barkingfrogspermaculture.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Parkinson" <parkidavid at gmail.com>
To: <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: [permaculture] Sharon Astyk: 
"Permaculture Future?: Part I"


> I'm delurking to send a pointer to Sharon 
> Astyk's most recent post on
> permaculture, which I think anyone associated 
> with that movement, no matter
> how loosely, should read and think about:
>
> http://sharonastyk.com/2009/06/29/permaculture-future-questions-perhaps-worth-asking-part-i/
>
> My intention is not to start a donnybrook, but 
> more to open up the
> conversation to some of the objections and 
> concerns that Astyk is raising
> here. This resonated with me, since I find 
> myself in just about the same
> place as Astyk: highly sympathetic to the goals 
> and methods of permaculture
> as a set of practices, but less enamoured of the 
> way permaculture fits in to
> the surrounding culture. And less certain that 
> it will fare well if social
> change starts going turbulent anytime soon. 
> (Also, I haven't gone through a
> PDC, although I would love to if I could get 
> life to slow down for long
> enough.)
>
> Some readers might find the post to be too 
> USA-centric, whic is
> understandable. Nevertheless, I suspect that 
> permaculture has a roughly
> similar social standing in most or all of the 
> countries where it operates.
> Like Astyk, I see permaculture as a set of 
> hugely promising resources for
> the times ahead. And I'd hate to see those 
> resources squandered through bad
> PR and elitism (even if unintended).
>
> --
> David Parkinson
> Powell River, BC
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