[permaculture] BodyPolictic-Political Humor-Congress Votes to Outsource Presidency!
newtribe at hughes.net
Wed Jun 20 18:40:33 EDT 2007
Tommy, I agree with your assessment of the future - it will get pretty
ugly. And we each have the choice to approach that reality in our own
way. I think it is partly due to being a cancer survivor, but also
being a permaculturist, that i have changed my outlook of the times to
come. Laughter is glorious. It doesn't mean i don't understand or am
not actively participating in solution-oriented endeavors. But i just
plain don't have the time anymore to waste in negativity. It does not
assist in changing the status quo and prevents me from being the best
warrior i can be for Gaia.
Losing 20 species a week is far more depressing to me than the loss of a
small portion of a single species. Yes, even if i am one of them.
Tommy Tolson wrote:
> Graham wrote:
>> lets keep the
>> internatrional permaculture forum focussed on positive solutions and
>> ways forward to abundant living in post energy descent futures and what
>> we can do thats positive and practical now...
>> Cheers Graham www.spiralseed.co.uk
> This is a profoundly political statement favoring an arbitrarily
> privileged viewpoint, as far as I can tell. It comes from someone of
> remarkable stature,
> an authority figure, if you will. This is a statement of "how it should
> be," asking for no support, a simple, authoritarian declaration, the
> forte of white men.
> How, pray tell, does a positive solution come about without a
> decision-making process? Yes, we are in energy descent, but saying so
> is another political statement.
> Who decides what is "positive and practical now" for the members of this
> listserv? How is consensus gathered in the Permaculture community in
> general and on this
> listserv in particular? Who rules this listserv? Who may speak
> freely? Anyone? No one?
> I am not a farmer and I am not white in more than skin color. I look
> white until you look close but I'm not white. I have a Permaculture
> design certificate and I do
> Permaculture designs when they show up to be done. Even when I live on
> the land, I am not a farmer. Am I subject to farmer rules on this
> listserv? Like it or leave it?
> Is that the rule here, too?
> I do not own a positive view of the future. Two out of three people now
> living are not ecologically supported in a world without cheap oil. It
> is going to get very ugly very
> quickly, and insisting upon a positive viewpoint is not going to change
> that. The likelihood is that two thirds of the humans now living will
> die off within the next fifty years. I can not
> begin to make that appear positive. Global warming is a one hundred
> year old issue. The warning was issued one hundred years ago and we
> haven't done anything about it yet.
> Peak Oil was predicted in something like 1957 and few outside the oil
> business (I'm third generation oilfield) still, in 2007, even know what
> Peak Oil means.
> Leonard Cohen sang, "I have seen your future and man, it's murder."
> That's consistent with what I know.
> Thinking we can build out our designs and make them work and live out
> our lives in relative peace while the rest of the world falls apart does
> not strike me as realistic at all, and
> if I have to adopt an attitude based on the illusion that it is
> realistic in order to be on a Permaculture listserv, I find that
> prospect bizarre as hell.
> Are there any adults in charge here? Or has Permaculture morphed into a
> New Age quasi-theology? We can think the future away? Oscar Wilde, I
> think, said "If you tell them
> the truth, make them laugh or they'll kill you." I have neither the
> desire nor the inclination to make you laugh.
> Tommy Tolson
> Austin, TX
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