[NAFEX] honeyberries/ hascap

Sarah Kehler Ewing skkewing at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 7 18:29:04 EST 2010


I'm not much of an ornithologist, but what we got cleaned out by were not robins.  Whatever they were, they flew in large flocks and were fairly small, nondescript little brown jobs.  And my bushes have only been there for a couple years, last year was the second year they found them.

About the frost, my honeyberries took 6" of snow during full bloom and still put on a full crop.  I read that they can take about 7 degrees of frost.

As for pollinators, we have the same dearth of honeybees up here, although I am assured by our provincial apiculturalist that it is not from colony collapse disorder.  Perhaps it is due to idiot beekeepers such as myself (I have killed 2 of my three hives thus far this winter!).  Anyway, we see a lot of native wild bees pollinating our stuff and encourage them by leaving shelterbelts alone.  They fly in colder temps than the commercial Large Cell honeybees anyway (we are keeping small cell honeybees for this same reason).  Small Cell means they grow in 4.9mm cells vs the commercial 5.1 cells). 

Sarah 
zone 3
Edmonton, AB


--- On Fri, 3/5/10, John S <swim_at_svc at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: John S <swim_at_svc at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] honeyberries/ hascap
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Received: Friday, March 5, 2010, 5:26 AM
> Sarah,  Do you know what kind of
> birds did the damage?
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Sarah Kehler Ewing
> <skkewing at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Sarah Kehler Ewing <skkewing at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] honeyberries/ hascap
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers"
> <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 6:24 PM
> 
> The birds cleaned off my whole crop
> last year and they got my friends crop too.  My
> friend's have a commercial strawberry acreage and the
> honeyberries were along one side of a strawberry patch: the
> birds ate every berry off of 50 honeyberries and didn't
> touch the strawberries.  They don't spray so that
> can't be the difference, maybe the earliness of the
>  honeyberries brings in the birds.  We are both
> netting our bushes this year... more news on that to follow
> in a few months.
> 
> Sarah 
> zone 3
> Edmonton, AB
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 2/25/10, John S <swim_at_svc at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: John S <swim_at_svc at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] honeyberries/ hascap
> > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Received: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 8:00 PM
> > Evelyn,
> > 
> > I haven't had much problems with the birds and
> > these.  The leaves appear to hide the fruit
> fairly
> > well, perhaps the birds just haven't figured it
> out
> >
>  yet.  One thing that may help is that all my small
> > fruits, except honeyberries, are under birdnet or
> > screens.  This may have some training effect on
> them
> > that the tempting fruits cannot be reached in my
> yard. 
> > I've had robins demonstrate their
> frustration. 
> > Also, there is a large, small fruited, white fruited
> > mulberry tree about 2o yards away.  They fruit
> over a
> > fairly long period of time and do appear to distract
> some of
> > the birds.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, EVelyn Mellott
> > <e.mellott at xplornet.ca>
> wrote:
> > 
> > From: EVelyn Mellott
> >  <e.mellott at xplornet.ca>
> > Subject: [NAFEX] honeyberries/ hascap
> > To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:36 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
>>> > 
> > I don't think late
> > frosts really are any problem 
> > with the honeyberries, last year we had one of the
> latest
> > and coldest springs, 
> > they seem to tolerate the cold quite well.  But
> I
> > agree on the lack of 
> > pollinators  that early in the spring.  The
> other
> > major problem are 
> > the birds getting the fruit before you.  They
> are
> > early and you should be 
> > checking them often because their fruiting process is
> quite
> > short, and a remay 
> > cover is probly a good idea.The birds and possibly
> > squirrels will clean them 
> > right off.  I llove the fruit  in
> > pies,muffins,jam,oatmeal 
> >
>  porridge after the fruit is cooked it is very tasty.
> > Raw, the ones I have 
> > collected fruit from have a tart side,and I do sorta
> have a
> > sweet 
> > tooth.
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