[NAFEX] Was: Pear Thief, now hazards of relocating wildlife

John S swim_at_svc at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 26 00:10:52 EDT 2010


Then we should get that treaty/law changed!  Robins do major damage to small fruit crops, as I'm sure we all know.

To quote an earlier post...

We    are    powerful!!!



--- On Wed, 8/25/10, Richard Wagner <rewagner at centurytel.net> wrote:

From: Richard Wagner <rewagner at centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Was: Pear Thief, now hazards of relocating wildlife
To: "Pat Armstrong" <rancher at carolina.rr.com>, "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 7:22 PM



 
 
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Robins are protected by international treaty and killing 
or harassing them is a federal crime.




From: Pat Armstrong 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:40 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers 
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Was: Pear Thief, now hazards of relocating 
wildlife


I agree Lucky, especially your last 
sentence...  Robins are not considered endangered by our 
household, I'd bet they'd cook up just like dove.   I've 
heard that you can get rabies from eating the brain of a diseased animal, so I'd 
probably be extremely careful when preparing any rodent 
or mammal for dinner...personally, I'm not fond of brains-as-food, so I would 
not plan on eating the them.. This link refers to a couple of cases where those 
who butchered were not careful enough.
http://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2009/03/articles/animals/cats/eating-dog-or-cat-linked-to-rabies-/   

 
Pat 7b

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Dr. Lucky Pittman 
  To: 'North American Fruit Explorers' 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:01 
  PM
  Subject: [NAFEX] Was: Pear Thief, now 
  hazards of relocating wildlife
  

  
  Not 
  bashing on you, Jay, and some may look at me as a heartless b at st@rd, but trapping and relocation is not a 
  desirable solution; but I don’t bend over for the bunny huggers or 
  anthropomorphizing public any more, so I’ll say it. 
  It’s 
  better to terminate ‘em on the spot.  Shoot to kill, use quick-kill 
  traps/snares, or live-trap and terminate. 
     
  Except 
  in the case of threatened species – which squirrels most assuredly are NOT – 
  wildlife biologists are pretty much all on the same page in opposing 
  relocation/translocation of problem/depredating 
wildlife. 
     
  Relocated 
  animals will immediately have to compete with the existing population at the 
  site of release for available food, shelter, mates, etc., all while avoiding 
  predators – in an area that may already be at ‘carrying capacity’ for that 
  species.  The relocated animal &/or members of the pre-existing 
  population are likely going to find themselves at a disadvantage – something 
  may experience a slow, lingering death due to starvation or 
  injury. 
     
  By 
  relocating a problem animal to another location, you may also be relocating 
  whatever parasites or disease organisms it may be carrying, thereby risking 
  transmission to a naïve population.   
  The 
  raccoon rabies outbreak that’s been running up the eastern/northeastern US 
  coast and is now heading west across PA & OH,  for the past 25 years 
  is the result of some not-so-insightful members of then-President Carter’s 
  staff/cabinet translocating raccoons(some carrying the raccoon strain of the 
  rabies virus) from south GA to VA, because they ‘missed’  
  coon-hunting. 
     
  Depending 
  upon season, you may orphan young which may or may not be able to survive 
  without the care of the relocated animal. 
  And 
  last, but not least, you may just be dumping your  problem 
  animal onto someone else and creating problems for them. 
  In 
  some states, there are statutes(though I doubt that they are rigorously 
  enforced) prohibiting relocation/translocation of wildlife 
  species. 
     
  I 
  understand that not everyone is comfortable with terminating problem animals – 
  even vermin, like squirrels – in a quick humane manner,  but it’s a 
  preferable solution to trapping and relocating.   Trapping and 
  relocation may assuage your own personal feelings of guilt, but it’s not the 
  right thing to do. 
     
  Properly 
  prepared, squirrel, rabbit, groundhog, raccoon, etc. are quite tasty, and very 
  nutritious – especially if they’ve been eating all the fruits of your 
  labors. 
     
  Lucky 
  Pittman 
     
  
  
  From: 
  nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On 
  Behalf Of Jay Cutts
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:17 
  PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] 
  Pear Thief 
     
  I sometimes live-trap the offending squirrels who have 
  learned a naughty behavior and relocate them some miles away. I assume other 
  squirrels will move in to take their place but they haven't learned the bad 
  habits yet.

Regards,  Jay  Jay CuttsDirector, Cutts Graduate ReviewsLead Author, Barron's Test Prep Publications800-353-4898 day or eve, 7 days(In NM, 505-281-0684)   
  
On 8/25/2010 1:18 PM, Robert Bruns wrote: 
   
  
  I've had squirrels chew through green apricots to get to 
  the pits.  They are probably after the pips in your pears.  Once one 
  squirrel does it, all the other squirrels see it and do the same, stripping 
  even a large tree in a few days. 
  
    
  
  Fred 
  
  On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brungardt, Sam (MPCA) 
  <Sam.Brungardt at state.mn.us> 
  wrote:

 
  
  
  Caren, squirrels 
  can carry amazingly large fruit, even on power lines.  I think they’re 
  your thieves. -- Sam 
    
  
  
  From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Caren 
  Kirk  
  
  
Sent: Wednesday, 
  August 25, 2010 1:09 PM 
  
  To: North American Fruit 
  Explorers 
  Subject: [NAFEX] Pear Thief  
  
  
    
  
  Out of interest, could anyone 
  suggest what would be stealing small pears off my Flemish Beaty in July before 
  they've fully grown and ripened? It's a small, young tree that I planyed 
  last year that set about 8-10 small fruit. However something came and took 
  them at the beginning of July. There were absolutely no signs of damage to the 
  tree and absolutely no trace of the pears. 
  
    
  
  Animalwise we have quite a 
  family of squirrels in the area but it seems to me that they would be too big 
  for a squirrel to carry off. We have the odd raccoon, but the tree is too 
  spindly to hold that kind of weight without branch damage. My kids show no 
  interest in my fruit until it's on a plate in front of them, and they know 
  better. As do the neighbours. 
  
    
  
  Any ideas so I can work out a 
  strategy to protect them for next year? 
  
    
  
  Caren 
  Kirk 
  
  St. Jerome, 
  QC 
  
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