[NAFEX] trailing black raspberry

Brady, Kathy BradyK at health.missouri.edu
Wed Apr 15 23:02:59 EDT 2009


I would be very interested in what your description of a trailing black raspberry is.. I have an old variety that the cane drops over , touches the ground ,and roots from the top..  I got it from my Husband's Grandmother's garden years ago.. 
 
Thanks,
Kathy

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From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of John S
Sent: Wed 4/15/2009 9:35 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry


Ernst,  I went on the Internet in response to your post to see what I could find about so called "trailing" raspberries.  What I found did not convince me - I think mostly it was artistic, descriptive license to sell a plant or a mis-use of the term "trailing"..  For example, I found a Park's description of Cumberland as "trailing".  Having grown Cumberland, I do not consider it to be appropriately described as trailing.

For now, I'll believe a trailing black raspberry when I actually see it myself.  Over 50 years of interest in black raspberries and I haven't run into a trailing one yet.  However, like you, I  have run into many people that don't know the difference between a blackberry,  a black raspberry and a berry that is black.  I'll allow for the possibility, but want to see better evidence myself.

John



--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko at wiktel.com> wrote:



	From: Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko at wiktel.com>
	Subject: Re: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry
	To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
	Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 9:56 PM
	
	
	Sorry, I am talking in the post about black raspberries.  People
	around here call all dark colored berries blackberries and I picked
	up the habit.  No the canes I have are real trailing black
	raspberries.  An acquaintance gave me three canes last spring which
	are vigorous growers and very hardy.  I have a picture of some
	blossoms I can send you.  These are mystery black raspberries which
	supposedly came from Canada some time ago.  I did read on internet
	that there are trailing back raspberries.  I showed some locals my
	black currents and they called them blackberries.   All the black
	raspberries I have seen previously were erect.
	
	---- Original Message ----
	From: swim_at_svc at yahoo.com
	To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
	Subject: Re: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry
	Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:17:54 -0700 (PDT)
	
	>Ernst,  The post from you that I am responding to (below)seems to use
	>"blackberry" and "black raspberry" interchangeably.  Please clarify. 
	>I am familiar with trailing blackberries, but not trailing black
	>raspberries.
	>
	>Thanks
	>John
	>
	>
	>
	>--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko at wiktel.com> wrote:
	>
	>From: Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko at wiktel.com>
	>Subject: [NAFEX] trailing black raspberry
	>To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
	>Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 11:54 AM
	>
	>Snow is melting rapidly the last three days.  Snow melted away from
	>the trailing black raspberries I got last spring.  They are a mystery
	>variety. I had some berries last summer and they tasty.  They did
	>easily live through the winter except the voles chewed on them. I put
	>mouse poison next to them last fall..  Too many voles.  I'll put out
	>traps for them today and try to wipe them out.  I'm disappointed but
	>the raspberries should make it and put up more canes.  Next fall I'll
	>cover them with wire mesh.  I have six varieties of black raspberries
	>now growing under lights. By varieties I mean wild blackberries from
	>six states. I'm looking for varieties that will grow here. 
	>Commercial varieties are not hardy enough but wild varieties have a
	>better chance since I know the hardiness of commercial varieties.  It
	>is possible to discover a more hardy black raspberry from wild
	>populations.
	>
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