[NAFEX] Pear tree size and crop
Lon J. Rombough
lonrom at hevanet.com
Sat Apr 4 12:14:28 EDT 2009
Given how many variations on the description I've seen for Keifer over
the years, I've suspected the name has been applied to a number of
European-Asian hybrids. Miekal's descriptions sure doesn't fit what a
lot of people say about "Kiefer". Might be worthwhile to collect
"Kiefer" from several sources if you want to try it.
I have a row of seedlings from 20th Century open pollinated and most
of them are obvious hybrids with European pears. Several are similar
enough that they could be confused if they weren't growing side by
I've been through the pear collection at the NCGR and there are a
pretty good number of such types of hybrids.
And there are "Asians" that are hybrids. "Tarusa Crimson" is sold as a
red Asian pear when the characteristics of it show it to be a
Keifer could stand some serious fruit exploring.
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On Apr 4, 2009, at 8:55 AM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
I lost the Luscious that I planted to fireblight in their first year
I have one Kiefer that I maintain in the way that Claude describes & I
agree its pretty easy to manage the size. I'm guessing it puts out
more than 10 bushels (tho it does tend to crop in a 2 cycle—more one
year, less the following year). Kiefer is a dessert pear, hard skin,
a bit bitter, sweet & fragrant on this inside with a bit of the
dessert pear grit... I do eat a lot of them out of hand but tend to
peel them first. I also put up 10 gallons of perry from the same tree
On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Claude Jolicoeur wrote:
> Most hardy pear trees will grow big if you don't control them. But
> they are
> quite easily manageable. Once they have reached the maximum height you
> want, you simply cut back the year's growth. Same principle for the
> dimension. I maintain my trees at about 4m high by 4 across without
> much difficulty.
> There are very few hardy pears that will keep more than a month.
> is early and will keep maybe 2 weeks, Luscious maybe 1 month. Patten
> Flemish Beauty a little longer. The first pears will be edible
> beginning of
> September, and the last ones will have to be eaten, processed or be
> lost by
> end of October... Which leaves a fairly short season - hence the
> not to plant too many trees.
> A 07:57 09.04.04 -0400, vous avez écrit :
> A while back, Claude made some excellent suggestions for pears for
> my zone.
> I am now considering getting 2 trees, however space always being
> tight in
> my overcrowded yard I would like them to not be too big.
> As I am looking for good keepers I was thinking Luscious. However
> on the
> internet I have found sites stating it can grow up to 15m(45ft) with a
> 10m(30ft) spread, and others stating that it grows to 5m(15ft) by
> I have read that Northbrite is a small tree (but have not found any
> dimensions), so I've been considering that.
> Claude warned me about the size of crops, I can't visualize whether
> 2 trees
> would give me far too may pears to keep through the winter for my
> If one tree would be more than enough I could go with grafting
> varieties on to a smaller tree as Claude suggested (this is
> hypothetical as
> I have no grafting experience).
> If anyone can clarify the sizes of the trees and the typical yield I
> be grateful.
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