[NAFEX] Red and Black currants for warm climes
Sam.Brungardt at state.mn.us
Mon May 5 13:07:58 EDT 2008
Hal, where are you located? My experience here in Minnesota is that
Crandall always sets as much fruit as it can handle. My one bush is
isolated and has been fully self fertile.
Also, I'm pretty sure they no longer exist, but Prof. N.E. Hansen at
South Dakota State University selected a number of golden currants (and
possibly some clove currants) with better-than-average horticultural
characteristics. These were given Indian names. Dr. Hansen's long dead
and I doubt whether the S.D. Agricultural Experiment Station has
maintained that germplasm. I donated a report on his selections of
cold-hardy fruits to the NAFEX library. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul,
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[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Hal Love
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:33 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Red and Black currants for warm climes
Yes, I'm evaluating quite a few clove and golden currants. This
will be the first year for any of them to fruit other than 'Crandall',
so I can't make any fruit comparisons yet. These are a mixture of
seedlings, both wild collected and some 'Crandall' crosses, along with
some named and un-named selections from the Corvallis repository. They
all handled last summer's intense heat and drought really well, were
little affected by the Easter freeze, and most have had no sign of
disease. They have a highly variable range of bud break, bloom and
resistance of the flowers to late frosts. 'Crandall' has the latest bud
break and bloom of all, but a couple of others overlapped well enough
that 'Crandall' has set a huge crop this spring. In the past, the fruit
set was lower and the fruit small without cross-pollination.
One seedling has a very odd habit. This is from 'Crandall' x
'Gwens'. I sent some seedlings to my father in Arkansas, and this one
quickly spread over a large area, and began blooming early, and never
stops blooming spring through fall. Even the suckers, that pop up
several feet away, start blooming almost immediately. The fruit drop off
when small, so it probably needs cross-pollination. I'll be getting some
suckers from it soon, so I can see how it does here.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Moyer <mailto:ramoyer at gmail.com>
To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Red and Black currants for warm
Rob wrote: "Does anyone have a really good source of
Black and Red currants? I have seen that most of them seem to be Zone 8
or cooler, I am right on
zone 8 are there certain varieties I should lean
Our currant that defoliates least in the summer heat is
'Crandall'. This is not a European Black Currant (Ribes nigrum), but a
selection of American native (Ribes odoratum). Native through much of
rockies, also down to N. Texas. So should be able to handle your heat
but still would appreciate afternoon shade. Currant breeder Stan Pluta
evaluated many black currants at the NCGR repository in Corvallis, OR,
and he and Kim Hummer published an article in Fruit Varieties Journal
entitled "Surprise, it's Crandall". You can get a copy through
Hidden Springs Nursery and Edible Landscaping have both
offered 'Crandall' in the past. Both have SE US humidity, so should be
a good testing ground for Red Currants you might want to try as well.
If you search this list archives, much more info on
Hal Love is working with currants in TN, if I remember
right, so he's worth asking as well. As are Adam and Sue Turtle.
NE TN/SW VA
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