[NAFEX] Blueberries in Paradise: Farmer tweaks soil

Stephen Sadler Docshiva at Docshiva.org
Wed Aug 6 00:26:35 EDT 2008


I hope continued DNA analyses will reduce the taxonomic nightmare... yes,
the coffee has C, roasted or not (less after roasting); but more importantly
the essential element Cf...

~ Stephen

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[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Robert C. Mullins
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:10 PM
To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Blueberries in Paradise: Farmer tweaks soil

Stephen,

I am with you on this point about specificity.  Particularly with regard 
to plants and plant species.  I would wish that the Latin nomenclature 
would somehow be used more often, even though I understand the taxonomic 
nightmare to some degree.


I believe I must point out that coffee beans after being roasted should 
contain some carbon wouldn't they?  ;)

Just thought I would share.

Robert C. Mullins M.S. IT
GaelicMysts Farms and Permaculture, Owner
Clarksville, Ar
Zone 8a
http://wildcraft.gaelicmysts.com


> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:05:48 -0700
> From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva at Docshiva.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Blueberries in Paradise: Farmer tweaks soil to
> 	successfully
> To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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>
> That was pretty cool, and I'm happy for the farmer and for blueberry
lovers
> in Utah.
>
>  
>
> As a biochemist, though, I've been getting a bit annoyed at some reporting
> I've seen lately.  Here, "removing the calcium and magnesium - referred to
> as carbonates."  Wouldn't it seem sensible to someone who's taken high
> school chemistry that carbonates should contain, I don't know, some
carbon?
> And that calcium and magnesium per se would not, and exist in forms other
> than calcite and magnesite?  I understand in this specific case he was
> removing Calcium and Magnesium carbonates, but the inference that,
> therefore, Ca and Mg are "referred to as carbonates" I'm sure was
> universally accepted as blindly as it was assumed and reported.  I think
the
> public hears sciencey or mathy talk and goes, "oh, I don't understand
those
> things, but I learned something now - carbonate means calcium or
magnesium.
> So, let's see, milk is a good source of healthy carbonates;" or the brain
> just shuts off altogether when it hears about somethingates.  
>
>  
>
> Yes.  I see I'm testy.  Will stop complaining now and drink my coffee.  I
> take it black, no creamer, so no carbonates for me this morning..-- 
>
>   
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