[NAFEX] 2007 Hardy Grape Notes

Del Stubbs northernlights2n at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 27 17:23:28 EDT 2007


Glad to hear St. Croix can make wine, I haven't added that one to my planting yet. I
misstated a little on the Valiants, we made 4 half gallon containers from 4 plants - but
we sometimes dilute it about 1 to 1 to drink it - it is so concentrated.
Del

--- mIEKAL aND <dtv at mwt.net> wrote:

> Del:  How many Valiant plants did it take to generate 4 gallons of  
> juice?
> 
> Thanks for the report.  Here in SW WI we had 3 1/2 weeks of non-stop  
> rain.  80% of my grapes split & exploded & the bees & ants made quick  
> work of them.  I did manage to salvage 2 gallons of juice from 5 St  
> Croix plants which was promptly turned into a merlot which we did an  
> early tasting of yesterday.  I'm definitely not gonna have to worry  
> about bottling the wine because it will disappear quickly.
> 
> ~mIEKAL
> 
> On Sep 27, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Del Stubbs wrote:
> 
> > Here are my notes from this season, I am trialing several other  
> > varieties but they have
> > not fruited yet.
> > (Our location in N. Minnesota was  listed as zone 2b, but we don't  
> > even see minus 40 that
> > often anymore so I have changed my designation to 3b) Heavy soil,  
> > drought conditions mid
> > July to mid Sept. - but plants showed little stress.
> > All grapes were juiced with a Victorio strainer.
> >        Grapes: Sept. 16, 2007 picked all grapes after 2nd hard  
> > frost of season.
> > Beta:  Sour, must add sugar, poor flavor, (graft over or remove)
> > Blue Bell:  Very productive, very large berries, needs a little  
> > sugar, never got blue -
> > reddish cast - fully ripe? were    very juicy, try mixing with  
> > sweet apple juice
> > Frontenac:  Pleasant as fresh eating (only had one little bunch on  
> > new plant).
> > Monitor: - Too tart to eat fresh, dark juice, overipe, splitting  
> > berries, needs some
> > sugar to make drinkable juice, ok as juice, full flavored.
> > 1729: Berries are the size of valiant, looser bunches, rich flavor  
> > (not as rich flavor as
> > valiant of course, but even sweeter), super sweet! I have no idea  
> > who the breeder  is or
> > if number is hyphenated. ( Anyone familiar with this grape?)
> > ES  8-2-24: - Birds ate 50%, mild good fresh flavor, fully ripe,  
> > some acid, good wine?
> > questionable as table grape
> > sufficiently sweet, good juice, vino?
> > DM 8521-1: - Very small berries this year, putsy to hand strip,  
> > wife's favorite for fresh
> > eating, dark juice, fully ripe, she might prefer it over even  
> > valiant as juice because it
> > is smoother,  so gets an A as juice,  I believe it has Merlot in  
> > its background. Eager to
> > try for vino!
> > Sueltor: - Large  berries, easy to strip, fully ripe, dark juice -  
> > pleasant  if  a little
> > sugar and water added.
> > Troubador:  Next in flavor to valiant, fully ripe, but irregular  
> > ripening, many small
> > green berries, ok for juice.
> > Valiant: Picked Sept 7, very productive, very flavorful and sweet,  
> > little bird predation,
> > made 4 gallons of concentrated juice.
> >
> >
> >
> > Del Stubbs  www.pinewoodforge.com   zone 3a   N. MN
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Del Stubbs  www.pinewoodforge.com   zone 3a   N. MN


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