[NAFEX] Samdal Elderberries/L. caerulea

vrana nokal at seznam.cz
Fri May 25 00:21:53 EDT 2007


I have many cultivars.I wisited Mr.Jakob in gaisenheim research station and
show him my pictures. He ask: what is it? I told: loniceras for fruit. He
went with me into liberary and took encyklopedia and found there,that it
have fruit of bad taste. I ofered my help in researchz but he refused. I
could help a lot. now research is very far, but there is still a lot of work
to be done.I have berries only 30mm, but russians have till50mm.   Nearly
each university have it in research now.It have great future ekonomy
meaning.  Jan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hans Brinkmann" <hans-brinkmann at t-online.de>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Samdal Elderberries/L. caerulea


Hallo Vrana,
thank you very much! I am always interested in good cultivars.
In Germany we have approx. 10 cultivars of Lonicera caerulea var.
kamtschatica.
Some are the American Blue-series and some are new ones from different
origins.
Which one do you have in your country?
Yes, they contain Anthocyanes(amount?), Flavonole, Rutin, vitamin C,
6-8% sugar and 2-4% fruit-acids.

ciao
hans



vrana schrieb:
> and what do you say for haskap content of anthocyans?
> http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp/sikikoubou/img10122191101.jpeg
> http://item.rakuten.co.jp/kitanomori/hasukappu6/ If interested, contact
me.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hans Brinkmann" <hans-brinkmann at t-online.de>
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Samdal Elderberries
>
>
> Hallo Doug,
> Sambucus is e.g. containing much Appleacid, Grapeacid and Anthocyane.
> Anthocyane are very strong antioxidants  with many, many positive
effects...
> Probably this is the reason we strongly recommend Sambucus against a
> cold, an infection and even against  infection-pain and others effects.
> Only "wild"! Vaccinum berries have a much higher content. Vaccinum CV
> have almost none content.
> We consider e.g. Samdal, Samyl, Sambu and Haschberg (bad
> umbel-ripening-time) for a very high Anthocyane content.
> According to my information pure S. canadensis has always a smaller
> Anthocyane content.
>
> ciao
> hans
>
>
> dwoodard at becon.org schrieb:
>
>> Hans, is there a Sambucus nigra cultivar recommended for anyi-viral
>> (common cold) activity?
>>
>> Doug Woodard
>> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007, Hans Brinkmann wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hallo Richard,
>>> Sambucus nigra "Samdal" is really good, high Anthocyan! medium growth,
>>> no special disease-problem at Germany, but many are possible.
>>> "Allesöe" has even better harvest because of same ripening-time(per
>>> umbel)! is one of the best for commercial plantations at Germany!
>>> We use different cultivars for different chemical contents.
>>> Probably you have also nice crosses between S. nigra and S. canadensis.
>>>
>>> ciao
>>> Hans
>>>
>> [snip]
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