[NAFEX] bamboo info

Goodwill at Homefields Farm sbreneman at yourgoodwill.org
Mon Jun 11 09:11:27 EDT 2007


Thanks for the tips on bamboo.  Bass, would you have divisions of that 
to bring to the Backyard Fruit Growers summer tour?

Scott




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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:57:37 -0700
> From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva at Docshiva.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] math, inches in mm
> To: <dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com>,	"'North American Fruit
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> 6mm is just barely shy of a quarter inch, not an eighth.  25.4mm per inch.
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> My allergist's office used to have a sign saying to tell them if, after a
> shot, you got a wheal on your arm greater than 25 cm.  I'm sure they meant
> mm - a 10 inch wheal would need more than one arm.
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> ~ Stephen
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
> dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:27 PM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Curculio / Surround adhesion question
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> Mark,
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> I have never seen PC really any longer than 5-6mm.  I have probably seen
> nearly 100 or so and they have all been around that size.  For those not
> acquainted with the metric measurement of insects, 6mm=1/8".
> 
>  
> 
> You spray at petal fall because you want the PC adults to ingest the spray
> before they lay eggs so they never have the chance to lay those eggs.   If
> the spray is done at petal fall before full fruit set, it is in place to be
> ingested as the females begin to strike the fruit which can happen as
> quickly as 2-3 days from petal fall.  I have seen strikes on fruit as small
> as 3mm in Liberty apples that set first and grow the fastest.  Our Liberty
> were at 20mm when most other varieties were at 12 - 15mm.  We thin with NAA
> between 12 and 15mm and have to use Sevin on anything larger than 15mm.  And
> if you let PC larvae survive in the fruitlets, they will become the next
> year's adults as they survive through June drop.  They will stay in the
> fruit and never ingest any spray.  Hope that answers your questions.  If
> not, just let me know.
> 
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> Dennis Norton
> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
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> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 02:59:08 -0400 (EDT)
> From: dwoodard at becon.org
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] dwarf almonds
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Lon, are you sure that cooking destroys the cyanide compound?
> 
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
> 
> Lon Rombough wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like Prunus tenella.  Tom Plocher in Hugo, MN said he had some
>> bushes of that species that produced 300 nuts per bush after -40 F.
>> The species is sold as an ornamental by several nurseries.  They are
>> bitter, so the nuts have to be cooked to be safely edible.
>> -Lon Rombough
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 03:11:43 -0400 (EDT)
> From: dwoodard at becon.org
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Curculio / Surround adhesion question
> To: dmnorton at royaloakfarmorchard.com,	"North American Fruit Explorers"
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> Dennis, I have read of a control fro apple maggot involving red fake
> apples covered with tanglefoot. Do you know if anything like this works on
> curculio? maybe with a fruit scent lure?
> 
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
> 
> 
> Dennis Norton wrote:
> 
>> You spray at petal fall because you want the PC adults to ingest the spray
>> before they lay eggs so they never have the chance to lay those eggs.   If
>> the spray is done at petal fall before full fruit set, it is in place to
>> be ingested as the females begin to strike the fruit which can happen as
>> quickly as 2-3 days from petal fall.  I have seen strikes on fruit as
>> small as 3mm in Liberty apples that set first and grow the fastest.  Our
>> Liberty were at 20mm when most other varieties were at 12 - 15mm.  We thin
>> with NAA between 12 and 15mm and have to use Sevin on anything larger than
>> 15mm.  And if you let PC larvae survive in the fruitlets, they will become
>> the next year's adults as they survive through June drop.  They will stay
>> in the fruit and never ingest any spray.  Hope that answers your
>> questions.  If not, just let me know.
>>
>>
>> Dennis Norton
>> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
>> http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
>> http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
>> http://www.revivalhymn.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 06:08:11 -0500
> From: "Bassem Samaan" <bassem at gardener.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] bamboo variety for stakes
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <20070607110811.D54AC1BF281 at ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com>
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> I have collected and used the variety "yellow grove" with best results.
> This type of Bamboo is stiff and can be as long as 15'. I use it in the
> garden for stakes and as a hoop for growing beans. I also used it as a
> stake for shipping trees. I can use the top part of the bamboo which is
> thiner, and goes right into the container and used as a support during
> shipping. Bass
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Donna &/or Kieran"
>   To: "North American Fruit Explorers"
>   Subject: Re: [NAFEX] bamboo variety for stakes
>   Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:40:57 -0500
> 
> Hector Black who owned HIdden Springs Nursery in TN showed us how to
> harvest native cane for his nursery, cutting only 3 year canes.  I don't
> know if his daughter still uses it.  We grow the solid stem bamboo, but I
> know that's not what I received in a box of trees from McMinnville TN. 
> Donna
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