[NAFEX] Curculio / Surround adhesion question

Lee Reich garden at leereich.com
Mon Jun 4 09:48:24 EDT 2007


I sprayed Surround on my apples for about five years, beginning right  
after petal fall and then every week or two or whenever it rained  
about an inch. I got good coverage using a gasoline powered Stihl  
backpack sprayer. In those five years, I harvested almost no apples  
and would often see curculio scars on the fruits the day after I  
sprayed!

Lee Reich, PhD
garden at leereich.com

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On Jun 4, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Mark Dorogi wrote:

> I used Surround for a few years on apples, also using a Solo backpack
> sprayer.
>
> As I recall, the Surround label recommends not using an extra  
> sticker, since
> it already has it.
>
> The main thing is that you really have to spray at least two and  
> perhaps
> three, times for your initial coverage.  And I found it helpful to  
> have a
> pretty fine spray setting, and keep the pressure high.  If it  
> rains, you've
> got to renew the coverage.
>
> The Surround did seem to work well for curc on my apples, at least  
> the one
> year where I was really energetic with spraying.  I found it tough  
> to keep
> up with all the spraying.
>
> So now I'm bagging the apples, since I only have 10 trees.  Perhaps  
> that
> would work with plums too.
>
> Thanks for the advice on the raccoons!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Del Stubbs
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:23 AM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: [NAFEX] Curculio / Surround adhesion question
>
>
> Last year the curculios were so effective I go zero plums off of 7  
> trees ( 5
> varieties)
> that had had  their first fruit set. So I bought a 25# bag of  
> Surround,
> followed
> directions, using my solo back pack sprayer. After two sprayings  
> the leaves
> are quite
> white but only a third of the 1/4" to 1/2" plums are even covered -  
> and I of
> course
> targted them specifically both times. So I tried various  
> concentrations in a
> little  hand
> spray bottle, spraying directly on the plums - I can watch it bead  
> off.
> Obviously the
> 'berries' have a waxy coating that resists a water based substance.
> All I can think of is to add a surfactant like dish soap, but worry  
> about
> burning the
> leaves. Anyone found a solution to make Surround actually work?
> (BTW, it went flawlessly through my back pack sprayer, I had read  
> of someone
> complaining
> about clogging - my guess is  that they did not use the coarse  
> filter under
> the cap of
> their sprayer.)
> Del
>
> Del Stubbs  http://www.pinewoodforge.com   zone 3   N. MN
>
>
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