[NAFEX] Surround Alternatives
Docshiva at Docshiva.org
Wed Jun 15 11:41:00 EDT 2005
Have you tried the nematodes? I'm not convinced that they make a huge dent,
but I have had success using shotgun approaches to difficult pests: many
things that work a little working synergistically... Neem, Surround,
Nematodes, and traps, for instance.
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[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of lee reich
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:45 AM
To: breen at fedcoseeds.com; North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Surround Alternatives
I'll put in my two cents on Surround: I've used it for about three
years, applying it with a Stihl backpack sprayer. My yields have been
very low, despite the fact that I get very good coverage and apply it
frequently. A couple of years ago I thought maybe I was applying it
too frequently or that the force of the blower was knocking off the
This year, so far, I've started out with once a week spraying right
after petal fall, mixing sulfur in to control scab. There's still
many fruitlets on the trees, but many -- my offhand guess is 80
percent -- are showing curculio damage. Any insights? I'm hoping not
to go back to spraying imidan.
By the way, I'm in Zone 5 in New York's Hudson Valley.
Lee Reich, PhD
On Jun 12, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Heron Breen wrote:
> Also, as common sense, do not assume that the fineness of Surround
> is not present
> in a bulk product of Kaolin. Englehard is not selling enough of
> this stuff to
> create a whole new grade of milling. Kaolin is used in tons of
> cosmetics and
> other really super fine usages. The correct mill grade for the home
> sprayer is
> definitely out there. I am going to look on some bags of Surround
> tomorrow and
> see if it reveals the mill grade. I see three possible sellers, one
> in Tennessee
> and another from an own-line dealer. We'll see. Anyone else got
> some time to help
> look into this?
> Heron Breen
> zone 4, Maine
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