[NAFEX] quercetin? (elderberries)

Thomas Olenio tolenio at sentex.net
Tue Aug 2 12:03:08 EDT 2005


Hi,

Could they just be talking about increased "T-cell" production?

I have no idea.

Later,
Tom


On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:00:05 -0400, Doc Lisenby <longdistshtr at shtc.net>  
wrote:

> I agree with you, Charlie.  I strongly suspect this to be meretricious  
> persiflage, but we might have to spend millions to disprove it.  At  
> least it will take some PhD's off the welfare list to research it.
> Doc L.
>
>
> Real interesting report.   Only other fruit I have heard attributed with  
> immune-stimulating properties is Tahitian Noni, a citrus-type fruit from  
> Tahiti, its extract is sold as well.  For this particular brand I found  
> it at
>  http://www.allstarhealth.com/de_p_ref/1044/froog1044/NATURES_WAY_Sambucol_-_Black_Elderberry_Extract.htm
> I wish I had confidence in the study.  When the study says "serum showed  
> a higher antibody level to influenza virus in the Sambucol group" it  
> strains my credulity.  It sounds hard to isolate antibodys to specific  
> viruses from serum, if it could be done so easily it wouldn't seem to  
> take years to even find antibodies to diseases occupying the attention  
> of several different nation's disease institutes - it makes me suspect  
> the study is a sham performed for money - but I don't know enough of  
> microbiology to say for sure.
> But, finding immune stimulators is so important that any new stimulator  
> deserves following.  I hope we hear more.
> Charlie Paradise



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