[NAFEX] converted willingly

Thomas Olenio tolenio at sentex.net
Wed Oct 27 10:32:39 EDT 2004


Hello,

Don not use the word "sell", it will raise the hackles of copyright  
sentries.  A voluntary "donation", that is turned over to Nafex is much  
more appropriate.

You never know, people may donate much more than than they would pay.

Later,
Tom


On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:16:29 -0400, Bruce Hansen  
<brucedhansen at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Heron:
>
> We do not have to bring before the Board voluntary contributions by  
> members.
> I am not talking about raising dues. Also, if I create a CD with back  
> issues
> of POMONA and wish to sell that CD to Members and then give the money to
> NAFEX, I do not need the Boards approval.
>
> B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Heron Breen
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:01 AM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: RE: [NAFEX] converted willingly
>
>
> Bruce, I know it is hard to patient with the process here, but we still  
> have
> to bring these issues formally to the board and the rest of NAFEX. It may
> take another year before the involvement we have all been formulating  
> comes
> to pass. We all have families, jobs, other distractions like getting the
> harvest in before freeze up etc. I think we will all see the fruit of  
> these
> fertile discussions but not with two weeks. As a nursery type person,  
> folks
> are only now formulating their plantings next year and past Christmas you
> will start getting requests. Also, please put your auction idea into  
> Pomona
> and that will bring a lot more responses. We have to follow the slow
> sometimes laborious and tedious process of incorporating as many ideas as
> possible, and recruiting a broad base of support. I lot of people I know
> barely read their list-serve weekly, and then only skimming for important
> stuff. It is time for us all to start working on our letters, and helping
> others to round out theirs. Badgering folks is only going to push them  
> away.
> I know, I have done it. This time we need inclusion, patience, and to be  
> in
> it for the long haul. I really appreciate your desire for change, and  
> your
> forcefulness can push us out of ruts, but we risk the consequences of
> sabotaging efforts by blasting folks with too strong a message.  Truly  
> with
> respect, Heron  On Wed Oct 27  7:55 , 'Bruce Hansen'
> <brucedhansen at sbcglobal.net> sent:  >Taking Heron's point, NAFEX members
> have duties and responsibilities. One of >the responsibilities is to fund
> your organization. I realize that those on >the list-serv represent about
> 10% of the membership, perhaps less. Many on >the list-serv are not  
> members.
> It appears that all you folk do is talk and >talk and talk, yawn! You  
> never
> do anything, apparently. Asking y'all for >$10.00 to NAFEX is like lying  
> on
> your back and spitting at the stars. I >asked that each of us purchase  
> three
> memberships for others. Wow $39.00!! >You would think you were asking for
> $39,000.00. What a bunch of tight-wads. >Shame on you!! I even had one
> person state "I do not know anyone who would >want a membership". Egads!!
> Use your telephone directory. Pick three people >at random who have
> fruit-like last names and buy them a membership. Another >person wanted  
> to
> know what the money would be used for. What kind of a >question is that
> when, to all intents and purposes, no one will contribute >one red cent?  
> >
>> Perhaps we are lucky that most of you won't write letters for POMONA.  
>> Why
>> expose the rest of the membership, who find using computers demeaning,  
>> to
>> selfish and self centered attitudes. > >-----Original Message-----  
>> >From:
> nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
>> [nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org','','','')">nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.or
> g]On Behalf Of Charles Paradise >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:58  
> AM
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers >Subject: Re: [NAFEX] converted
> willingly > > >Writing article is a little like preparing a lecture, then
> getting up and >delivering it while everybody else listens. > >A  
> round-robin
> is more like a note we passed around in class while the >teacher was out  
> of
> the room.  ["Did you watch Outer Limits last night?" >"Let's go to Andy's
> after school] > >I haven't written enough articles for Pomona - why  
> can't we
> used this email >form here to show our work at its current state and ask  
> the
> others to >respond helpfully to help us finish our stuff up so it can be
> submitted? > >Charlie Paradise >out of ink in Massachusetts > >Heron  
> Breen
> wrote: > >there is a place for an on-line > >> Pomona. Taking it a step
> further, I think if we can create a round-robin >effect, >> such as Lon
> describes as the original intent of Pomona by looking >presenting what  
> >> is
> discussed on the list as discussion points for members, and also  
> >seriously
>>> looking at what non-list letters bring up, we can comment on each  
>>> other.
> I >guess I >> am grasping to integrate the two, and still keep the focus  
> to
> diversify >and lengthn >> Pomona. How to increase involvement...how to  
> get
> folks to >participate....Can't >> force anyone to write, but I am still
> intrigued by the old requirement >that writing >> was the duty of  
> members. >
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