[nafex] Grinder Details

Thomas Olenio tolenio at sentex.net
Thu Jun 22 14:23:50 EDT 2000


Hi,

I bet it looks like this:

http://www.sentex.net/~tolenio/hardyg/press.htm

At least mine looks something like this.

Regards,
Tom

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Thomas Olenio
Ontario, Hardiness Zone 6a

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Raby, Brian {20-4~Indianapolis} wrote:

> Don,
> 
> My question is; it seems you "manufactured" your own apple grinder, but you
> didn't mention what you use to press the slurry into juice/cider.  
> 
> Brian Raby
> Sheridan, IN
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Yellman [mailto:dyellman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 1:05 PM
> To: nafex at egroups.com
> Subject: [nafex] Grinder Details
> 
> 
> 1.  Since Doc and Claude seem interested, here are a few more details on
> the garbage disposal apple grinder.
> 2.  The table I built measures 20X24" across the top, and is 36" tall.
> Top is a piece of kitchen countertop.  Those dimensions are not rigid.
> I discharge into 5-gallon buckets lined with nylon pressing bags, but if
> you want to discharge into a 40-gallon garbage can, build a bigger
> table.  Don't know how you would move around 40 gallons of slurry
> though.  The legs have to be braced so the unit is stable.  You could
> also use an old sink, although I see no advantage to that.
> 3.  Wiring is pretty simple.  Use 16/3 cord, and a switchbox with an
> ordinary light switch.  Carry the ground all the way through, since you
> will be working in a damp environment while standing on the earth.  Only
> the hot wire needs to be switched.
> 4.  Garbage disposals come with a 90 degree black plastic fitting for
> the discharge outlet.  That's all you need.  It will cleanly fire the
> slurry into your bucket.
> 5.  This system works only with nylon pressing bags, the strongest you
> can find.  Coarser mesh is usually heavier and for that reason better.
> You can blow out a weak bag with a screw type press.  I did that last
> fall and put some apple slurry up on the garage roof.  Nylon bags are
> available at beer/winemaking shops.
> 6.  Once the bucket is 2/3 full, twist and lift the bag out to the
> press.  You can put two bags of slurry into your pressing basket; I do
> not recommend three or more, since you start to lose some efficiency.
> Even so, you will have at least 6-7 gallons of slurry.  There will
> already be a gallon of juice in the bucket when you lift out the bag.
> 7.  The difference between a garbage disposal and any type of toothed
> grinder is that the disposal produces slurry, with the juice cells
> already broken up, while a toothed grinder produces chunks.  Even a
> well-engineered toothed grinder like Claude's will turn out chunks,
> although they might be smaller chunks.  A garbage disposal is
> essentially a miniature hammermill.  Slurry will always give you a
> higher juice yield.
> 8.  Victoria's idea of using a trash compacter as a press is intriguing,
> but I think the problem would be --- how do you strain out the juice?  I
> have thought about drilling hundreds of little holes in a stainless
> stock pot, eliminating the pressing basket and bags completely.  But I
> have not found a sturdy stockpot with the 13" diameter of my pressing
> plate, and anyway, I wonder if it would not quickly clog up and reduce
> my juice yield.  With the nylon pressing bags, you just dump out the dry
> cake, call the horses over for a little treat, rinse the bag and resume
> pressing.
> 9.  If you can sell this idea in N.H. Victoria, it might mean an
> expanded market for garbage disposals.
> Rgds, Don Yellman, Great Falls, VA
> 
> 
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