[Cc-hk] ICANN Consultation at HK: Sharing our discussion with Dr. Hong Xue

Jerry~Yuyu jerry.tschan.yu at gmail.com
Mon Jul 20 04:59:38 EDT 2009


I think we should have at least an event page on facebook

otherwise is quite hard for my fd PY to use his power in fb :p

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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:24, Charles Mok <charlespmok at gmail.com> wrote:

> Local press mostly can't even spell Icann yet. May take some time to
> 'educate'. Must admit we are not as up to speed as we should be abt
> these issues on a community basis.
>
> On 7/20/09, Kathy Kleiman <Kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > Charles and I have both mentioned Dr. Hong Xue in our emails. Since she
> > and I were talking separately, I thought it might be nice to bring
> > everyone together. I have cc'd Hong above -- thanks for joining us!
> >
> > I think ICANN will be surprised, and concerned, if all of you can speak
> > at the microphones on Friday.
> >
> > Also, is there any local press you can speak to? We found that briefing
> > the New York Times on our concerns before the NYC meeting was important
> > to his preparation for the meeting -- and he reflected our concerns in
> > his article.
> >
> > Best and great tx,
> > Kathy
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Kathy Kleiman
> >> <Kathy at kathykleiman.com <mailto:Kathy at kathykleiman.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Charles, Ying, and Jack,
> >>     I am so glad you can attend the ICANN meeting on Friday. What can
> >>     I do to assist you?  The IRT Report is lengthy and difficult (on
> >>     purpose, to make it difficult to criticize).
> >>
> >>     In Sydney, since we had only a few minutes at the microphones,
> >>     everyone took a difference piece -- and expressed their concerns
> >>     based on the work of their organization. One group criticized the
> >>     IP Clearinghouse, another the Globally Protected Marks List,
> >>     another the URS (too rapid take-down system for domain names).  We
> >>     also referenced NCUC's general deep concerns about the other issues.
> >>
> >>     Please feel free to share ideas, and I am happy to assist with
> >>     editing, links or examples. Like Sydney, you will only have about
> >>     2-3 minutes at the microphone. Having a short written statement
> >>     worked well for me (NYC) and Konstantinos (London).
> >>
> >>     Rebecca has done a wonderful job laying out (and writing) key
> >>     documents below. I have a few more....
> >>
> >>     1) The outstanding comments of Leslie, Guan Yuanyuan (Legal
> >>     Supervisor, China Organizational Name Administration Center).
> >>     These comments analyze and compare Chinese trademark law and US
> >>     trademark law. They argue that the IRT "ignores the difference in
> >>     state's jurisdictions, ignores the protection of domain name
> >>     registrant's rights, and with the paranoiac and simple intention
> >>     protects the rights of trademark holders" (from closing comment).
> >>     Leslie gave terrific speeches in Sydney and you will like these
> >>     comments! -- at
> >>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/irt-final-report/msg00129.html
> >>
> >>     I have copied her above.
> >>
> >>     2) The strong comment of Dr. Hong Xue, Chinese Domain Name Users
> >>     Alliance, and her opposition to the IP Clearinghouse and Globally
> >>     Protected Marks List because: "ICANN, in its limited technical
> >>     coordination role as declared in its mission, has absolutely no
> >>     authority to create any international or even global law to change
> >>     the territorial nature of trademark rights. What is recommended by
> >>     IRT is to set up a private ordering through ICANN DNS governance
> >>     to create a de facto global enforcement for trademarks,
> >>     irrespective of legal limits of trademark protection."
> >>
> >>     Hong's full comment is at
> >>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/irt-final-report/msg00138.html
> >>
> >>     3) My speech in NYC is posted on YouTube at
> >>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgUC869bTVM (please let me know if
> >>     you would like the text).
> >>
> >>     Good luck in HK!
> >>     Best,
> >>     Kathy
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
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