[Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC

Mayella Cheung cheungll at rthk.org.hk
Fri Apr 24 02:36:30 EDT 2009


Fyi, RTHK had also despatched the questionnaire to secondary school
principals.

Mayella

Oiwan Lam wrote:

> i agree, we can just use the RTHK questionnaire and distribute it to
> teachers but i suggest also to put it online for general public -
> because netizens will talk about it and catch more attention.
>
> for teachers maybe good to contact ‹³‹¦ and ‹³—üHthey should have an
> email list for all their members.
>
> 2009/4/24 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu at gmail.com>
>
>      The RTHK questionnaire is already very elegant and yet
>      helpful, and
>      should be good enough for wider distribution.
>
>      I also second Pindar's idea about targeting secondary school
>      teachers
>      teaching Liberal Studies. This semester I have a master in
>      general
>      education class that consists of mostly such teachers from
>      secondary
>      schools. The class is about globalization, one of the
>      several
>      formidable subjects they have to cover in Liberal Studies.
>      The
>      students already made their presentations using RTHK's video
>      footage,
>      for example, on in a project that introduces fair trade to
>      high school
>      students.
>
>      What's the best way to reach this group, who may need to use
>      RTHK
>      materials to benefit many more and younger students? HK
>      Education
>      City?
>
>      jack
>
>      2009/4/24 Mayella Cheung <cheungll at rthk.org.hk>:
>      > Thanks, Oiwan.
>      > I think that's a very good idea!
>      >
>      > Mayella
>      >
>      >
>      > Oiwan Lam wrote:
>      >
>      > in that case, we need more public pressure for the rthk's
>      opening up. can we
>      > release the news to a wider public and do a online public
>      survey by
>      > ourselves to create public opinion?
>      >
>      > 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
>      >>
>      >> I have contacted Mayella Cheung of RTHK and this is her
>      response.
>      >>
>      >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>      >> From: Mayella Cheung <cheungll at rthk.org.hk>
>      >> Date: 2009/4/23
>      >> Subject: Re: RTHK Consultation on CC
>      >> To: Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
>      >> Cc: pindar.wong at gmail.com, Charles Mok <mok at hknet.com>,
>      Ying Chan
>      >> <yychan at hku.hk>
>      >>
>      >> Dear Haggen,
>      >> Glad to hear that!
>      >>
>      >> Since the CCHK was established in Nov last year, I have
>      been trying to
>      >> "educate" RTHK Management and push for the setting up of
>      a "RTHK Creative
>      >> Archive".   It's not that easy as there are still some
>      internal resistance
>      >> at the senior level about opening up RTHK archives
>      (especially from the
>      >> unit which handles RTHK programme licencsing of DVD/VCD).
>
>      >>
>      >> But fortunately the new Deputy Director of Broadcasting
>      (ie. an AO from
>      >> the govt) seems to like my idea and asked me to draft the
>      questionaire to
>      >> first get some feedbacks from RTHK Programme Advisory
>      Panel Members.  I
>      >> guess at least this is a good step to push it forward.
>      >> And besides the Advisory Panel members, I also sent the
>      questionaire to
>      >> some academics and hope to seek their views as well.
>      >>
>      >> To make things happen, it would indeed be great and
>      useful if there is
>      >> some outside support (eg. press write-ups) of this RTHK
>      Creative Archive
>      >> initiative :-)
>      >>
>      >> As I'm not in the CC-hk mailing group, pls feel free to
>      post this up for
>      >> me in your mailing list discussion.
>      >> And pls feel free to let me know if there is anything I
>      can help.
>      >>
>      >> Thanks.
>      >>
>      >> Rgds,
>      >> Mayella Cheung
>      >> RTHK Deputy Head of New Media
>      >>
>      >> 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>:
>      >>
>      >> > Pindar has some problem mailing to the list. Just
>      repost.
>      >> >
>      >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>      >> > From: Mr. Pindar Wong <pindar at pacific.net.hk>
>      >> > Date: 2009/4/23
>      >> > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>      >> > To: Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
>      >> > Cc: cc-hk <cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org>
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > Let me  try to respond to this substantively later
>      today.
>      >> >
>      >> > In the meantime I would say ....
>      >> >
>      >> > 1) Consul With Liberal Studies Teachers in addition to
>      University Staff
>      >> >
>      >> > Consulting with University teaching staff is helpful,
>      but my sense is
>      >> > that consulting with senior secondary teaching staff,
>      who are faced
>      >> > with the daunting task of deploying the New HKDSE,
>      would lead to more
>      >> > direct and visible benefit to HK.
>      >> >
>      >> > Specifically consult with those teachers charged with
>      deploying
>      >> > 'Liberal Studies' -- a corner stone of the new
>      curriculum and, reading
>      >> > recent press, looking rather wobbly.
>      >> >
>      >> > 2) Baby Steps:
>      >> >
>      >> > It would be a big move for any institution to put a
>      substantial part
>      >> > of its intellectual property on the Internet. RTHK *
>      already* does so
>      >> > on the web and CCHK now provides an excellent legal
>      means for RTHK to
>      >> > grow and move forward. That said, I think it would be
>      prudent to start
>      >> > with 'baby steps' and start with content where there is
>      a clear and
>      >> > immediate need for material to be licenced under CCHK.
>      >> >
>      >> > 3) Start with Selecting RTHK Material that will help
>      with the
>      >> > deployment of the 1st Term (Sept 2009-Dec) of  'Liberal
>      Studies'
>      >> > (which is now one of the 4 CORE subjects to be studied
>      in senior
>      >> > secondary school)
>      >> >
>      >> > 4) Specifically RTHK could look at contributing
>      material to support
>      >> >
>      >> > Liberal Studies 'M2: Hong Kong Today'
>      >> >
>      >> > e.g. providing examples of is numerous current
>      affairs/calling/talk
>      >> > back programs which explore 'both sides' of an issue.
>      >> >
>      >> > 5) RTHK material is part of our cultural heritage, so
>      try to convince
>      >> > them to keep there material online for more than their
>      existing 2
>      >> > years would be a very positive step.
>      >> >
>      >> > More to follow ...
>      >> >
>      >> > p.
>      >> >
>      >> > On Apr 23, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Haggen So wrote:
>      >> >
>      >> >> This is great news and everyone please continue to
>      give suggestions. I
>      >> >> will follow up.
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Haggen
>      >> >>
>      >> >> 2009/4/23 Edmon <edmon at isoc.hk>:
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> I know Joe Yau and Christline Loh are both very
>      interested in this
>      >> >>> topic as
>      >> >>> well.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> Sure... do you have anything specific in mind?
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> Edmon
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> From: sc at itvoice.hk [mailto:sc at itvoice.hk]
>      >> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:31 AM
>      >> >>> To: Edmon
>      >> >>> Cc: 'Kenneth Yip'; 'Oiwan Lam'; 'cc-hk'
>      >> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> Do we have this in other economies like Taiwan, etc.
>      >> >>> I mean, Edmon, we may utilize the concept of .Asia to
>      do something.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> SC
>      >> >>> -----------------
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> Edmon ’ñ“ž:
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> That sounds like a very progressive move!
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> How can we help to promote/push this to reality...
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> Edmon
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> From: cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
>      >> >>> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
>      Kenneth Yip
>      >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:24 PM
>      >> >>> To: Oiwan Lam
>      >> >>> Cc: cc-hk
>      >> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> It will be even better if RTHK can open their archive
>      under CC.  I am
>      >> >>> sure
>      >> >>> people can have many creative use of RTHK archive.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> 2009/4/22 Oiwan Lam <oiwan.lam at gmail.com>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> RTHK is now consulting university teaching staffs on
>      opening up of
>      >> >>> their
>      >> >>> archive under CC to public. it is a very good move.
>      Should we write
>      >> >>> something to newspapers to alert people to fill up
>      the feed back form?
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> cheers, oiwan
>      >> >>>
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