[Cc-hk] Meeting?

meymf meymf at ust.hk
Wed Jul 4 12:06:11 EDT 2007


Dear Rebecca,

I shall make myself available for the meeting on July 30 or 31st.

Regards,

Matthew

Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:

> Hi everybody. What are the chances we can meet on July 30th or 31st? I
> need to be in Taipei by late evening on the 31st in order to make the
> Wikimedia advisory board meeting, which starts on the morning of Aug.
> 1st. But I am otherwise very flexible about timing on the 30th and
> 31st. Thanks.Rebecca   On Jun 24, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Jon Phillips
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 19:27 +0800, Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
>>
>> > Hello everybody. Just thought I would revive this thread. Shall we
>> > organize a meeting for July or August?
>> > Rebecca
>> >
>>
>> Hi all, the best time for me is going to be late July, early august.
>> I
>> have to be back in SF pretty quick after wikimania.
>>
>> Is during the week okay? I'm also quite interested in meeting with
>> businesses who are interested in using CC licensing. I would like to
>> spend 1-2 days in Hong Kong to get CC-HK setup and then also setup
>> some
>> high level business meetings to present CC to public and privately
>> to
>> key businesses.
>>
>> What dates seem the best? July 30, 31, August 1, 2 all are open, but
>> I
>> have to be in Tapei for wikimania AUG 2-5.
>>
>> Cheers! Would it make sense to have one legal meetup to get the
>> legal
>> team squared away? And then, have a wider public meetup?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> > On May 21, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Li Yahong wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>  Dear Matthew and Jon,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Perhaps early August is better as Jon can join then.Can Jon
>> >>  confirm a date when he is in HK?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Best, Yahong
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew MF Yuen"
>> >>  <meymf at ust.hk>
>> >>  To: "Jon Phillips" <jon at creativecommons.org>
>> >>  Cc: "Li Yahong" <yali at hku.hk>; <cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org>; "uta
>> >>  lam"
>> >>  <utalam at gmail.com>
>> >>  Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:16 AM
>> >>  Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Notes from Last Friday's Informal Lunch -
>> >>  May
>> >>  11th
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Dear Jon,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The important person is Yahong. I would like to pin down her
>> >> > diary
>> >> > first. I would be
>> >> > flexible to accomodate.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Dear Yahong,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Shall we go by July 15 as per suggested?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Matthew
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Jon Phillips wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>  On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 10:03 +0800, Matthew Yuen wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Dear Jon,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am not sure whether I shall be around on 15th July. Let us
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>  work on > this day, if
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I am not around, I shall get someone in the TTC office to
>> >> >> > host
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>  it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Matthew
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Ok, sounds good...what dates are good for you then? Like I
>> >> >>  said,
>> >> >>  I can
>> >> >>  possibly come through early Aug. near wikimania in Taipei.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Jon
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Jon Phillips wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 10:38 +0800, Li Yahong wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >>  Hi Jon,
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>  How about July 15?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>  Yahong
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > That sounds good. I'll be in UK then. Although, I will be
>> >> >> > > in
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>  Taipei > > Aug
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > 3-5, so I might be able to swing through then...I don't
>> >> >> > > want
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>  to slow > > the
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > process down though.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Jon
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >>  ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > >>  From: "Jon Phillips" <jon at creativecommons.org>
>> >> >> > >>  To: "Mr. Pindar Wong" <pindar at pacific.net.hk>
>> >> >> > >>  Cc: <cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org>; "Li Yahong" <yali at hku.hk>;
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >>  "Matthew > > > MF Yuen"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >>  <meymf at ust.hk>; "uta lam" <utalam at gmail.com>
>> >> >> > >>  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:05 AM
>> >> >> > >>  Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Notes from Last Friday's Informal
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >>  Lunch - May > > > 11th
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 07:56 +0800, Mr. Pindar Wong
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > On May 16, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Jon Phillips wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >>  On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 00:05 +0800, uta lam wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >> > Hi Pindar,
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > Wow, you guys really discuss a lot of issues in
>> >> >> > >> > >> > the
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >>  meeting.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > it was quite informative actually and fortunately went
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  beyond > > > >> the
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > initial exchanging ofpleasantries ;)
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > I would imagine that a first formal meeting would be
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  even more > > > >> so...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > But as I remember that the key of starting the
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >>  project is to > > > >> >> identify
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >> > a legal lead first, any potential candidates
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >>  nominated from > > > >> >> the
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >> > meeting?
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > In trying to understand the status of the project thus
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  far, we > > > >> also
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > namedMs Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen (from Jon's
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  first > > > >> meeting
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > on this subject back in 2006)!
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > As far as we could tell, based on postings to this
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  list,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > 1) we've two legal scholarsMs. Yahong Li (HKU) and
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  Rebecca Ong
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > (City U - kindly introduced by Kenneth)
>> >> >> > >> > > 2) several individuals associated with 'academic'
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  bodies - > > > >> applied
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > research (ASTRI) and universities (HKUST, CU, HKU ...
>> >> >> > >> > > )
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  law > > > >> faculties/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > media/cultural studies departments
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > So Uta ...several potential candidates and
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  institutions!;)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > CC may have already identified both (from Jon's email
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  below) --> > > >> which
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > is *fantastic* to move things forward! :)
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > Although the ligh-level process for formation was
>> >> >> > >> > > clear
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  ( > > > >> http://
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > wiki.creativecommons.org/Worldwide_Overview ), we
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  nevertheless > > > >> had
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > several operational/logistical/strategic user-related
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  questions > > > >> as
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > well as some practical ones e.g.whether our existing
>> >> >> > >> > > commercial
>> >> >> > >> > > contacts could be used to leveragepro-bono work from
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  a > > > >> commercial
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > law firm (Bakers, JSM, Slaughter&May etc) for the
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  initial review
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > (given that we've a common law history and version 3.0
>> >> >> > >> > > released )
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > So, with the combined experience on this list, we
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  should have > > > >> enough
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > clue to answer the 'known unknowns' !
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > As Jon, who was at the first meeting in 2006,
>> >> >> > >> > > mentioned
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  both
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >> > Any plan to contact those candidates?
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > Ah... well they're all on the list and assumed to be >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > periodically
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > > reading mail.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > Based on Yahong's email of May 8th, she would not be
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  available > > > >> till
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > July (earliest) and the thought of organising a 1st
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  meeting in > > > >> July
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > was in deference to this reality.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > Yahong: Would it be possible for you to propose a
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  convenient > > > >> date in
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > July per your scheduled?
>> >> >> > >> > > Matthew: Would it be possible for you to host this
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  meeting in > > > >> HKUST?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > Jon: Would it be possible to participate by
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >>  teleconference/video
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > > conference (we could rig something up)?
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Sure, but Catharina, is really the ideal person to do
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >>  this :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Jon
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > p.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > >> > >> > Uta
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>  Ms Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>  There is a chance that both Catharina and myself
>> >> >> > >> > >>  will
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >>  be at
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>  wikimania in
>> >> >> > >> > >>  taiwan in AUG, so depending if either of us get
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >>  there, could > > > >> > possibly
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>  swing through. Catharina is your best bet...
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>  I will potentially travel through though in the next
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >>  6-9 > > > >> > months
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>  because
>> >> >> > >> > >>  my family lives in Guangzhou...and I'm scouting out
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >>  places to > > > >> > live in
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>  China/HK ;) (a little personal info for you all :)
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>  Jon
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > --
>> >> >> > >> > Jon Phillips
>> >> >> > >> > jon at creativecommons.org
>> >> >> > >> > cell: 510.499.0894
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Community/Business Developer
>> >> >> > >> > Creative Commons
>> >> >> > >> > www.creativecommons.org
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> > > Jon Phillips
>> >> >> > > jon at creativecommons.org
>> >> >> > > cell: 510.499.0894
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Community/Business Developer
>> >> >> > > Creative Commons
>> >> >> > > www.creativecommons.org
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Matthew Yuen, Ph.D.
>> >> >> > Director, Technology Transfer Centre, and
>> >> >> > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
>> >> >> > Hong Kong University of Science & Technology
>> >> >> > Clearwater Bay,
>> >> >> > Hong Kong
>> >> >> > Tel: (852) 2358 7914
>> >> >> > Fax: (852) 2358 1202
>> >> >> > Email: meymf at ust.hk
>> >> >> > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>  --
>> >> >>  Jon Phillips
>> >> >>  jon at creativecommons.org
>> >> >>  cell: 510.499.0894
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Community/Business Developer
>> >> >>  Creative Commons
>> >> >>  www.creativecommons.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Prof. Matthew M F Yuen
>> >> > Director, Technology Transfer Center and
>> >> > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
>> >> > Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
>> >> > Clearwater Bay, N.T.,
>> >> > Hong Kong
>> >> > Tel: (852) 2358 7914,Fax: (852) 2358 1202
>> >> > Email: meymf at ust.hk
>> >> > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Rebecca MacKinnon
>> > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
>> > University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
>> >
>> >
>> > email: rmack at hku.hk
>> > blog: www.RConversation.com
>> > Tel: +852-2219-4005
>> >
>> >
>> > Co-founder:
>> > www.GlobalVoicesOnline.org
>> > "The world is talking. Are you listening?"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> --
>> Jon Phillips
>> jon at creativecommons.org
>> cell: 510.499.0894
>>
>> Community/Business Developer
>> Creative Commons
>> www.creativecommons.org
>>
>>
>
>    Rebecca MacKinnonAssistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies
> Ctr.University of Hong Kong   (http://jmsc.hku.hk) email:
> rmack at hku.hkblog: www.RConversation.comTel:
> +852-2219-4005 Co-founder:www.GlobalVoicesOnline.org"The world is
> talking. Are you listening?"
>
--
Prof. Matthew M F Yuen
Professor of Mechanical Engineering, and
Vice-President, HKUST R&D Corporation,
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Clearwater Bay, N.T.,
Hong Kong
Tel: (852) 2358 7189,  Fax: (852) 2358 1543
Email: meymf at ust.hk

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