[cc-community] The case for a stricter (or more honest) CC licence than BY-NC-ND

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Sun Jan 11 17:53:40 EST 2009


On Sunday 11 January 2009 13:59:38 Dr. Peter Troxler (Waag Society) wrote:
> On 11 jan 2009, at 19:40, Dr. Peter Troxler (Waag Society) wrote:
> > hence I would still conclude that his use of the CC branding could be
> > seen as misleading.
>
> and ad the same time I'm thinking -- poor guy, he comes with his best
> intentions, writing an amazing 1600 page textbook on physics (which
> I'm unable to download because his captcha thingy is playing up in my
> Safari browser), setting it live for free, providing translations to
> french and spanish, attracting funding to do this whole thing
>
> ... and then out of paranoia somebody could take this and get rich
> quick gets "tangled in legal" (hmmm ... I might want to (c) that as a
> title for my next podcast, apologies for the aside)
>
> he wants his stuff to be free for the good of humanity and probably
> was told by his environment that there are only bad guys out there
> waiting to turn his free 1600-page physics text book into a goldmine
> for themselves.
>
> This is actually a call to arms to the entire CC community (not
> really: we are already working on it):  let CC be more than a set of
> licenses "with a twist" -- give people, users, "licensors",
> entrepreneurs the vision how they will get rich (well no, but make
> some progress) by putting out material under CC, give them the vision
> that they can do stuff with their content themselves, putting it into
> a form they can sell which nobody else can copy

??? I am not sure what you mean by this but let me put something up for 
thought:

I like BY-SA.

I still think I can make my stuff available under BY-SA gratis and for a fee 
while also doing things like signed limited editions as the "packages" that 
others cannot legally duplicate.

> -- and get rid of that 
> "equals theft" mentality that still riddles CC fora, faq's and the like

Can you explain what you mean by the '"equals theft" mentality' a bit more for 
me?
>
> best wishes for 2009 and forgive me becoming emotional
>
> / PEter

all the best,

drew



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