[cc-community] What does NC means?

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Sun Sep 16 09:38:03 EDT 2007


On Sunday 16 September 2007 12:43 am, Enrique Vargas wrote:
> Interesting information. Let me add info.
>
> Nothing in the hymnal is PD. Actually, everything is new.
>
> The validation is a verification that the hymns had liturgical value.
>
> The hymnal is as simple as it get: Only lyrics, main melody of the
> lyrics and suggested chords. So it is in the lyrics and melodies we
> don't want changes.
>
> Recasting to any instruments, music genres, several voices, etc. is
> perfectly fine and expected. The hymnal does not specify anything on
> this. It is only lyrics and melody of lyrics.

The above rules out ND.
>
> For things like translations, changes in words, etc, authors want to be
> contacted first. Actually, if somebody wants to use a song for other
> than to sing in the church, authors want to be contacted first.
>
> The idea is to place the hymnal as a PDF on the Internet, so everybody
> can download it and print it and use it at their church.
>
> All the authors in this effort want to "give" their songs, so churches
> can use them freely without having to pay royalties, annualities, etc.

This rules out NC I think.

> They want to clearly state that they don't want this work to be used for
> profit. So, if using CC BY-NC-ND is not a good way to say this, I really
> want to hear what is the best way.

Give it up or craft your own license.

My recommendation is give it up. Go with BY-SA and brand it. Require contact 
and approval to use the brand on derivatives if you like.

This will let people earn a profit on the works though. I think this is 
something that while it may not sit right will inthe end be better than the 
alternatives.

For instance:

> The idea is to place the hymnal as a PDF on the Internet, so everybody
> can download it and print it and use it at their church.

could mean a lot more than just sing together during worship for many. Some 
may want to tape the service and make it available to people who are sick at 
home or in the hospital. Is this use in keeping with what you have in mind? 
It would be outside of your stated requirements as I see them.

I think I could go on with examples. Writing a license to allow all you want 
to allow and to deny all you want to deny is going to be very tough in my 
estimation.


>
> Regards;
> Enrique

all the best,

drew


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