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Wed Feb 9 11:17:47 EST 2011
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:58 PM, K Randolph <kwrandolph at gmail.com> wrote:
> According to a concordance, this word is listed under NCL נצל and is found
> in the niphal, hiphil, hophal and hitpael binyanim. The consonantal text
> allows for it to be read as a qal and is defective for a hiphil reading (a
> hiphil example is found in the next verse).
Thanks, Karl, but this doesn't actually interact with the
meaning questions that I asked.
Do you claim that the pa`al or hif`il means 'to take away ...'?
And whichever is which, then what do you claim for the other?
Or do you claim that the pa`al and hif`il mean the same?
I suppose after you clarify those questions
we can discuss whether a *natsal actually occurs somewhere,
which is a separate question.
On morphology and wayyiqtol vs yiqtol:
I'm glad you like hatsil in the next verse. Again, after clarifying the
questions, we can discuss
and compare with yiqtol yatsil.
(which is a third issue)
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > The actual meaning of NCL is ‘to take away, often in order to
>> > protect’ and Reuben succeeded in doing that.
>> I didn't know that natsal was a verb or that it
>> meant 'to take away ...'.
>> Would hitsil mean 'to cause to take away ...'?
>> And if hitsil only means 'to take away ...'
>> then what would *natsal mean?
>> We do agree that Reuben succeeded, in any case.
>> As the LXX translated, it was a done deal,
>> another wayyiqtol interpreted as perfective and
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