[b-hebrew] Ecc 12:6: BWR
Isaac Fried
if at math.bu.edu
Sat Apr 5 20:52:58 EDT 2008
Pere,
The acts RUC, KUM, SUR, $UB appear to be inherently voluntary [as
opposed to NI-RDAM, 'fell asleep' and the corresponding NE-(OR, 'woke
up, bestirred', as in Zechariah 2:17] and hence a Niph'al form is not
listed for them. The roots SUG, 'deviate, recede', MUG, 'melt away,
dissolve', PUC, 'disperse', RUM, 'lift', are listed in the Hebrew
grammar books as "having" a Niph'al form, so I do not see why RUC
should not have it.
If the Niph'al form of MUG is NA-MOG, of PUC is NA-POC, 'became
dispersed', and of RUM is NA-ROM, why not RUC -> NA-ROC. The NA-MOG-U
KOL YO$BEI KNA(AN of exodus 15:15 could equally well have been NA-SOG-
U KOL YO$BEI KNA(AN or NA-POC-U KOL YO$BEI KNA(AN or NA-ROC-U KOL YO
$BEI KNA(AN, 'dispersed are all the inhabitants of Kna(an'.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Apr 5, 2008, at 12:18 AM, <pporta at oham.net> wrote:
>>> As regards "to run"... are you sure that it is one of them?
>>> If yes, do you think that:
>>>
>>> 1. I run 20 miles every week -- is intransitive use
>>> 2. I cannot run this program -- is transitive use?
>>>
>>
>> Correct on both. Or another example, "The snake oil salesman was
>> run out
>> of
>> town."
>
> _______
>
> Yes, Karl.
>> From an English viewpoint this is as you write. But from a Hebrew
>> viewpoint
> it is wrong.
> The Hebrew view of the sentence is:
> "The snake oil salesman was caused to run out of the town"
> Namely, the Huph'al and not the Niph'al of "run".
> I mean: the right word --if we should to translate the sentence into
> Hebrew-- would not the Niph'al of RWC, but the Huph'al of RWC. Look
> at B.2
> in www.oham.net/out/P-d/P-d083.html
> and remark the examples taken from the Bible.
> I suggest you to take advice whether the Niph'al of RWC really exists.
>
> Warm greetings!
>
> Pere Porta
>
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