[b-hebrew] chalal - perforate/pierce?/KRH
Isaac Fried
if at math.bu.edu
Thu Sep 6 19:28:14 EDT 2007
Shoshana,
You are right. The only question is what is "different".
Isaac Fried, Boston University.
On Sep 6, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Shoshanna Walker wrote:
> No, it's a different letter, and they are different roots, those with
> a kaf and those with a chet
>
>
> Shoshana,
>
> You are right, but for diversity there is a kaf and there is a xet.
> The letter kaf is merely the letter xet turned upon its side. A he is
> a xet with a disconnected left leg, a qof is a he with an elongated
> leg, and gimel is a cross legged he.
>
> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>
> On Sep 6, 2007, at 10:41 AM, rosewalk at concentric.net wrote:
>
>>
>> Except that Kolel - the word meaning to include, is spelled with
>> a "kaf",
>> while the other words you are mentioning are spelled with a "chet"
>>
>> Shoshanna
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/6/2007 1:04:17 AM Central Daylight Time,
>> if at math.bu.edu
>> writes:
>>
>> 5. The basic meaning of XALAL is also 'to include, to enclose, to
>> encompass, to comprise, to surround, to generate', except that the
>> enclosed may be here but empty space, as just pointed out by
>> Shoshana
>> Walker. Thus XALON, 'window' is the cavity or the open space defined
>> by the surrounding wall, and such is the XALIL, 'flute', the
>> cylindrical [GALIL] hollow wind-pipe, and also the MXILAH [actually
>> MKILAH], 'tunnel', burrowed and included [GLULAH, KLULAH] in the
>> depth of the earth. XLL in the sense of 'profane' may mean
>> 'devoid or
>> empty of merit'. Indeed, its opposite QD$, which is but a variant of
>> GD$, means 'packed solid with supreme value'. XALAL in the sense of
>> 'cadaver', may mean 'rolled or bent over' or 'drained of life'.
>> Similarly 'MAXALAH', 'illness', may mean a lacuna or an ill
>> inclusion.
>> In conclusion: MXOLAL of Isaiah 53:5 is certainly not 'pierced'.
>> For a more detailed discussion of these roots look up
>> _www.hebrewetymology.com_ (http://www.hebrewetymology.com) .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JW:
>> This reminds me of the KRH "controversy" in 22:17. KRH clearly has a
>> primary meaning of "dig" in the Jewish Bible and by usage it is
>> always
>> shown as a Creative act. Yet some would argue that "pierced" is the
>> proper Translation even though the Hebrew words that do actually
>> mean "pierced" usually have a Destructive meaning. There seems to be
>> some Motivation outside of Translation which is looking for
>> "pierced".
>> Why do you think that is Isaac?
>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph Wallack
>>
>>
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