[b-hebrew] Ex3:14

kgraham0938 at comcast.net kgraham0938 at comcast.net
Mon Sep 12 12:48:27 EDT 2005


@Vadim:  You wrote
Whether a translation asnwers a particular question is irrelevant, though
one can prefer "I am" to "I will be" only on theological grounds. What is
relevant, is grammatical correctness. I showed few weeks ago on this list
that a theory of tenseless Hebrew is absurd, and Hebrew use of tenses is
perfectly consistent. Grammatically, the meaning is "I will be."

Vadim Cherny

Response: Well, don't you think that a translation should make sense?  Even though I understand your point of grammar, I don't think one can do proper translation without context.


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> On 12/09/2005 07:19, Vadim Cherny wrote: 
> 
> > ... 
> > 
> > 
> >We discussed this issue with issue a short while ago, and I proved 
> >decisively that Hebrew uses tenses absolutely correctly, in standard sense, 
> >but allows, like Russian, deictic centre shifts. The theory of tenseless 
> >Hebrew makes sense only for people who believe that all world uses tenses as 
> >English and German speakers. 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Vadim, whatever you may consider you have proved, in the light of recent 
> discussions, you can only claimed to have "proved decisively" if your 
> results have been published in a peer reviewed academic journal and 
> gained wide acceptance. And for that to happen you would have to go into 
> several linguistic issues in considerably more depth than you have done 
> on this list. Otherwise I think the best that you can claim is to have 
> an alternative hypothesis or theory. 
> 
> >Besides, as I also noted, how many yiqtols elsewhere are translated with 
> >present continuous? 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Quite a lot. Rolf probably has figures for this. But you will find that 
> only a small proportion of YIQTOLs in the Hebrew Bible are translated as 
> non-modal futures. 
> 
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