[b-hebrew] "Shaf`el" in Hebrew?

Karl Randolph kwrandolph at email.com
Sun Feb 6 22:40:28 EST 2005


Bearpecs:

"The "above pattern" is a late construct" compared to what?

I don't recall a single place in Tanakh where niphal is reflexive, could you please point out examples?

I have other questions concerning what you wrote below, but they are based on the first one above.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bearpecs at aol.com
> 
> 
> In a message dated 2/5/2005 9:36:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> kwrandolph at email.com writes:
> 
> The  above pattern has neither the place nor the need for a "shafel"  form.
> 
> 
> The "above pattern" is a late construct.  The niph'al, for example,  was
> originally a reflexive, not a passive.  Of course you "have found 
> that  pattern to
> fit the use in Hebrew quite well", because it was created to fit the
> then-current use.  The pattern was not intended to incorporate 
> diachronic  reality.
> The idea that Tanakh retains some archaic verb forms is no more  surprising
> than that it occasionally retains archaic words.
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