Tha Case Against a Hellenistic Primary History
mc2499 at mclink.it
Mon Oct 1 19:40:46 EDT 2001
From: Walter Mattfeld <mattfeld at mail.pjsnet.com>
>I would expect at least "a few" place-names from a Primary History
>"allegedly written in the Hellenistic age." The absence of the below sites
>should be a "wake-up call" for those advocating a late creation. How will
>they explain ALL of these sites NON-APPEARANCE in a Hellenistic creation
>(Some of these sites, however, DO APPEAR in other Hellenistic compositions,
>like for instabce, Maccabees I-IV).
Walter, you wouldn't expect specifically Greek founded
cities to have been knowingly included would you? --
for that's what many of the cities you list are.
>004 Abila (Gilead);
>081 Arbela (Galilee);
Mainly caves at the time of Bacchides
>085 Ariedela (Gharandel);
Very late? Hasmonean?
Looks Greek, only heard of in 1 Macc
>315 Emmaus (Nicopolis);
>333 Ephron (Gilead);
>380 Gerasa (Gilead); (Antioch on the Chrysorhoas)
>567 Malumas; 504 Kedron (Gedrus);
Specifically built by the Hasmoneans
Not a city and not built on until the time of A.Jannaeus
As this was the centre of the early Hasmonean family
they would probably have known its history.
>652 Odollam; 657 Orda;
>662 Pella (existed in LB but not in Iron Age);
Rebuilt by the Greeks
Only known from the time of John Hyrcanus, so probably late
>744 Seleucia (Golan);
There are a number that I couldn't track down, so perhaps
you have some insights on them.
In all though not very a inspiring list of candidates for
anachronisms that didn't occur where one might hope for
occurrences in texts one wants to show are not late.
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