[B-Greek] other translations of Heb. 11:17

Blue Meeksbay bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 7 15:07:27 EST 2009


Thank you very much. I am not multi-lingual, and so I was ignorant. Your answer is very helpful. You have more knowledge than I have on this issue. Thank you again.
 
Yours Truly,B.Harris


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From: Andronic Khandjani <andronicusmy at gmail.com>
To: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] other translations of Heb. 11:17

I am not to have understand your question properly.

Excepted in Persian where the article and the declension are lost, all these languages use articles. In hebrew the presence of the article is suggested by the eth used for the accusative. The possessiv pronoun "v" is suffixed to yahid. German and Serbian have declensions like the Greek. In French and in Spanish declensions are lost.


2009/11/7 Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>

Do you know if any of these other languages use a different word for the "article" and the "pronoun" as we do in English? If any of them do, I was just curious what nuance they gave TON in their language.
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From: Andronic Khandjani <andronicusmy at gmail.com>
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>C'est par la foi qu'Abraham offrit Isaac, lorsqu'il fut mis à l'épreuve, et qu'il offrit son fils unique, lui qui avait reçu les promesses, 
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>באמונה היה מעלה אברהם את־יצחק כאשר נסה ואת־יחידו יקריב המקבל את־ההבטחות׃ 
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>The hebrew used yahid who used to express the uniqueness of the children.
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>Per fede Abramo, quando fu provato, offerse Isacco; ed egli, che avea ricevuto le promesse, offerse il suounigenito: 
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>The Italian version used, following the Vulgata, a unigenito who means only-begotten, only-generated.
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>Por fe ofreció Abraham á Isaac cuando fué probado, y ofrecía al unigénito el que había recibido las promesas,
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>jerom privede Avraam Isaka kad bi kušan, i jedinorodnoga prinošaše, pošto bješe primio obećanje, 
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>Here the equivalent of only-begotten, only-generated is used. 
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>Aufgrund des Glaubens war Abraham bereit, Isaak zu opfern, als Gott ihn auf die Probe stellte. Abraham, der die Verheißung Gottes empfangen hatte, war bereit, seineneinzigen Sohn zu opfern, 
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>Here as in french translation, the word expresses the uniqueness of Isaac.
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>آری این مرد که وعده های خدا را پذیرفته بود حاضر شد یگانه فرزند خود را به خدا تقدیم کند
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>Here the persian used the construction yeganeh farzand who is similar to only-generated, but the Persian versions are influenced by the English ones.
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>2009/11/7 Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
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>Postscript to my last email –  I searched and found Wycliffe  translated TOV MONOGENHS  as “the only begotten.” It would be interesting to know how it is translated in languages other than English.
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