Cc: Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>, transicao-portugal <transicao-portugal@googlegroups.com>, Colectivo de Educação em Permacultura <edu-permacultura-pt@googlegroups.com>, europeanpermaculturenetwork <europeanpermaculturenetwork@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] [eu-pc-network] Re: Who runs extinction rebellion?
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:30:36 -0400
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 6:06 PM João Pedro Moreira Gonçalves <
joaovox@gmail.com> wrote:
Total BS propaganda, ugly, negative, not permaculture and completely wrong.
Steve Hart is giving the Permaculture movement a bad name. He besmirched
this list and has been banned permanently from it.
He is an ignorant, ill-educated, ill-informed troublemaker trying to turn
Permaculture into a political movement, essentially throwing obstacles in
the path of those interested in adopting Permaculture in their lives.
You would have to be a complete fool to take anything he says or does
seriously. I really regret I allowed him to post to this list. He couldn't
even get along with Toby Hemenway.
He is a serious liability for the Permaculture movement and should be
isolated well away from those wanting to take Permaculture in a forward
direction.
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> This link was in the comments in case you missed it.
> I'm about start reading it.
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The demonstrations, which began on 15 April, saw activists shut down major
roads and bridges in the capital for over a week, resulting in more than
1,000 arrests.
The analytics tool, which assigns search terms a popularity score out of
100 based on usage over a defined period, shows searches for ‘climate
change’ and ‘Extinction Rebellion’ exploded at around the time the protests
began.
In the week leading up to the protest, from 7 to 13 April, the term
“climate change” was assigned a relative score of 13, while “Extinction
Rebellion” was assigned a score of five.
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> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:13 AM Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes..pity more people do not read between the liners but prefer lazy
> > emotional perspectives. Time to do some homework add things up and join
> the
> > dots. Go hard Joao on the invitations to all your Permablitz events. Wake
> > them up on the way.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > *Steve Hart*
> > *Ecology Architect*
> >
> > Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
> > Regenerative
> > Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
> > and Systems Ecology via Ecological Agriculture..
> >
> >
> > *Skype: tipenemanawaPhone: +64 220 75 62 11*
> >
> >
> >
> > The Permaculture International College
> > https://permacultureeducation.com/
> > https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
> > In association with:
> > www.organicag.co.nz
> > bdmax.co.nz
> > https://organicpastoral.co.nz/
> > *I*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 19:05, João Pedro Moreira Gonçalves <
> > joaovox@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Summary, after my question, from friend:
> >>
> >> "The summary is that even though the protesters have the best intentions
> >> they are just a tool used by large corporations to further their own
> >> interests.
> >> How you ask? The public outcry for action will likely allow trillions of
> >> euros currently locked up in pension funds to be released to fund the
> next
> >> industrial revolution (in an ill attempt to save the climate). An
> >> investment that corporations are not willing or unable to make
> themselves
> >> but they will be the one profitting from this."
> >>
> >>
> >> Facebook post + link by Another person that trigged my question:
> >>
> >> "I love how people like Vidner Ferkov Katerina (Slovenija),
> >> Heiko Khoo (UK) and so many others are challenging the orchestrated
> >> efforts to bail out the rich (fourth industrial revolution & global New
> >> Green Deals) and privatize nature (New Deal for Nature) under the guise
> of
> >> green.
> >>
> >> It takes courage to challenge mainstream narratives manufactured,
> >> maintained and perpetuated by the non-profit industrial complex and
> media.
> >> (Just watch a short video on the Ache experiment is you doubt that the
> >> power of conformity is used as a weapon against us.) The interviews by
> >> Heiko Khoo yesterday are interesting as they are revealing. I appreciate
> >> the people being interviewed by Heiko for trying to answer the
> questions so
> >> patiently.
> >>
> >> Heiko Khoo:
> >>
> >> "When was the last demonstration by trade unions, students, doctors etc.
> >> that was immediately backed by some of the very biggest financial
> >> institutions in the world? And who declare the issues to be vital and
> >> requiring Trillions of investment! Trillions! These same people who
> have no
> >> problem with bombing Iraq, Afghanistan etc."
> >>
> >> "Wow! Two days into the "Extinction Rebellion" and Mark Carney governor
> >> of the Bank of England and his mate Villeroy de Galhau, the governor of
> the
> >> Banque de France, are convinced! This civil disobedience is manipulated
> by
> >> the biggest capitalist interests in the world. Today Carney speaks of
> £15.3
> >> trillion losses. Tomorrow he wants your support to plunder $90 trillion
> >> from the world's pension funds for "profitable green investments" that
> will
> >> not help the environment at all."
> >>
> >> "Either the system i.e. capitalist profit seeking dominance of the
> >> economy is the cause of the problem or it is not. If it is not then who
> >> cares about ending capitalism? All we need to do is pressure Bill Gates,
> >> Bono, Megan and Harry, and the heads of the banks to sort things out
> with
> >> our money."
> >> "
> >>
> >> Here in Portugal,
> >> Im inviting the rebels for a permablitz, and rethink rebellion by
> >> learning about permaculture systems.
> >>
> >> -
> >> João
> >>
> >> A sex, 19/04/2019, 01:13, João Pedro Moreira Gonçalves <
> joaovox@gmail.com>
> >> escreveu:
> >>
> >>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AWISiJJUHpU
> >>>
> >>> Another follow the money exercise...
> >>>
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