From: Wesley Roe and Santa Barbara Permaculture Network <lakinroe@silcom.com>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org, permaculture discussion list <pil-pc-oceania@lists.permacultureinternational.org>
Subject: [permaculture] Interview with Robert Watson (IAASTD Director) Africa: 'Increase Agricultural Productivity While Reducing the Environmental Footprint'
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:48:56 -0700
Africa: 'Increase Agricultural Productivity While Reducing the
Environmental Footprint'
INTERVIEW
15 April 2008
Posted to the web 15 April 2008
Johannesburg
Over the past few years, Robert Watson has had what must qualify as
one of the world's tougher assignments: heading an initiative to help
agriculture cope with the substantial challenges it faces presently,
and the even bigger hurdles ahead.
The three-year International Assessment of Agricultural Science and
Technology for Development (IAASTD) www.agassessment.org
:"has sought to evaluate agricultural knowledge across the spectrum,
with the help of governments, civil society, the private sector, and
hundreds of experts.
Watson initiated the project while chief scientist at the World Bank;
he currently serves as director of the IAASTD -- also as chief
scientist at the British environment and agriculture department.
The findings of the assessment are being formally presented Tuesday,
this after they were reviewed at an intergovernmental plenary held in
Johannesburg, South Africa, from Apr. 7-12. IPS environment
correspondent Stephen Leahy chatted to Watson at this meeting about
the landmark IAASTD.
What is the significance of the IAASTD findings for global food security?
The significance of the IAASTD is that for the first time governments
from the developed and developing countries, civil society,
scientific authors from natural and social sciences all worked
together to address the critical issue of how to get affordable and
nutritious food in way that is environmentally and socially sustainable.
The IAASTD clearly states that business as usual in agriculture is
not an option. Why is this the case?
The IAASTD builds on the findings from two previous assessments. The
Millennium Ecosystem Assessment found that 15 of the planet's 24
natural ecosystems are in trouble or in decline, in large measure due
to degradation of land and water -- mainly because of agriculture.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded that
agriculture is a major contributor to human-induced climate change,
and climate change will have a major impact on agricultural productivity.
If we only focus on boosting food production it will only come at the
expense of further environmental degradation.
What do IAASTD findings say about the current food prices, which are
at record highs?
There are many factors involved in food prices -- climate variability
resulting in declines in harvests in some areas, higher energy costs,
biofuel production and speculation on the futures market. Now is the
time to ask: how can we increase food production, keep food
affordable and ensure farmers can make a decent living? The IAASTD is
our best attempt to answer that important question.
You led the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change initiative and
Millennium Ecosystem Assessment. How is the IAASTD different to these
assessments?
It was absolutely critical to bring together an understanding of the
natural sciences with an understanding of institutions, human
behaviour and policies. Most previous assessments have failed to
grasp the importance of social sciences. While they might capture the
economic perspective they don't capture the other non-economic,
social science knowledge.
It is not enough to look at the science and technology of how to grow
more food without looking at its impacts on natural ecosystems and on
social systems.
Does IAASTD call for the end of large-scale monocultures?
If monocultures can be modified so they are environmentally and
socially sustainable, then they're OK. You can't undermine
agriculture's natural resource basis -- the soil, water, biodiversity
and so on -- because eventually it will collapse.
Why was there so little debate about climate change during the
intergovernmental plenary?
Climate change is well recognised now as a serious environmental,
development, human health and security problem. It is no longer a
controversial issue. The challenge for us now is how to maintain and
increase agricultural productivity while reducing the environmental
footprint, emissions of greenhouse gases and fossil fuel use in the
agricultural sector. At the same time we have to adapt agriculture to
the changing climate. The IAASTD findings point the way in terms of
the kinds of knowledge, science and technology we need to change
agricultural practices to cope with this reality.
You've called the IAASTD a "unique social experiment". What do you
mean by that?
All key sectors of society were involved: governments, civil society,
industry, farmers, academics, and major international organisations
like the World Bank and FAO (United Nations Food and Agriculture
Organisation). If everyone is affected by the issues of food,
environmental and social sustainability, then everyone should be at
the table to bring their knowledge and experience to help solve our
common problem.
Given the diversity of viewpoints, it was an incredibly difficult and
complex process. However I strongly believe this process is the way
for the future and can be applied in any context, be it local,
regional, national or international.
I can't think of a single important issue today that doesn't involve
multiple sectors.
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