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From: "Rita & Mark" <gutleben@utanet.at>
> Many years ago I read two books by Ernest Callenbach. Titles in German
are:
> Ecotoia, Ein Weg nach Ecotopia. They certainly helped me at that time to
> formulate my idea of what I wanted from life and what I could do without.
> Both deal with ideas about the environment (alternative energies and
> materials) and people (communities, new government) which partly fit very
> well with my idea of permaculture. Anybody else read them?